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Re: 'S' Stock latest, and final, images « Reply #4 on Jul 18, 2008, 9:12pm »
Don't really like the design of the S Stock. It looks too much like the Class 323 but thats because of the light clusters. Maybe I just got that impression from the angles thoguh. The construction of the 2009 seems to be going very well indeed. Great pictures from you guys Thanks for sharing Uzair
« Last Edit: Jul 18, 2008, 9:14pm by Uzair Siddiqi »
Re: 'S' Stock latest, and final, images « Reply #7 on Jul 19, 2008, 11:12am »
My first thoughts is that its the new Victoria tube stock's bigger brother though that is no surprise. Given the large glass front to the cab does the S-Stock have a better driver's view than any other LU stock before it? Perhaps the driver sees too much as to cause a distraction?
I think this has been mentioned before but are drivers required to visually check the position of points they approach before passing or rely on signal aspects alone depending on train speed?
I think this has been mentioned before but are drivers required to visually check the position of points they approach before passing or rely on signal aspects alone depending on train speed?
I would think that visually checking points at nearly 50mph on the Victoria Line would be quite difficult and certainly not within braking distance!
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Re: 'S' Stock latest, and final, images « Reply #9 on Jul 19, 2008, 5:46pm »
Yes, drivers should double check points and not rely on signals alone.......much as the signalling system should never show a different route to that set, never say never!
Yes, drivers should double check points and not rely on signals alone.......much as the signalling system should never show a different route to that set, never say never!
Unless you get a blown 5A NX route indicator fuse as happened at Upminster a few years ago.
After that the offending fuse was uprated to 20A at certian sites, normally ones with multiple routes and junction indicator repeaters.
I'm impressed. The original design would have been much better but still externally it looks great. How is the internal design going?
It is going well and is also complete. I can't post images just yet though because MRSSL and LU are planning to bring a mock-up saloon to London later this year (just as we did with the 09ts) and it would be a shame to ruin that event by posting images ahead of time. Again though, I will post them here before they go anywhere else. I don't think that Metronet have these external/cab shots on their site yet, so DD really does have first bite of the Cherry as promised!
The construction of the 2009 seems to be going very well indeed.
The 09ts build is going ok, but the cab is having to be re-designed. In fairness however, the two trains in Northumberland Park Depot (yes I did say TWO trains!) are pre-series or prototypes and some degree of extra work was anticipated once the trains had been put through their paces.
Given the large glass front to the cab does the S-Stock have a better driver's view than any other LU stock before it?
No, believe it or not, sightlines for the 'S' Stock are slightly worse than current stock due to a number of reasons. This train has full crash protection which requires larger pillars and more bodywork around the driving/Instructor positions in order to form a protective shell. In addition the driver deliberately sits much further back on 'S' Stock than on current conventional stock in order to bring them as far back from the window (with it's protective spooling), again in order to provide more protection. The net effect of this massive move forward in safety is that sightlines are slightly worse. This is why the cab has a specifically designed seat arrangement combined with a moveable foot rest which will ensure every driver gets an optimum seating position for both reach of controls, sightlines out of the window, and protection from missiles/collisions.
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