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Re: 'S' Stock build commences
« Reply #15 on Apr 6, 2008, 8:20pm »

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Slightly OT: Do they really pronounce it Bom-bar-dee-ay, and do you go along with this nonsense?

Yup, it's pronounced like that. It's a Canadian (french) company that took over Adtranz, who took over ABB who originally purchased BREL in 1989.

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Re: 'S' Stock build commences
« Reply #16 on Apr 6, 2008, 8:41pm »

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Do you work for Bombardier or something? I would love to have a first hand look at how trains are built!

No mate, I am LU all the way!

I work in upgrades (after a reasonably lengthy life in operations) and am responsible for ensuring that the design meets end user requirements.

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Re: 'S' Stock build commences
« Reply #17 on Apr 9, 2008, 6:48pm »

As promised, an update on 'S' Stock production:

The first driving motor car (21001) is fully constructed and on it's bogies. The doors are fitted and the cab has all of it's control panels/switches etc. In addition the drivers temporary desk and the instructors desk are in place, but the cab still requires some fit out (panels/facias etc). The saloon has very little fitted at the moment apart from the flooring, and it is still awaiting seats.

There are a another two cars constructed (which I was able to walk around) but without doors/bogies etc, and further two cars in a less advanced state with looms being fitted.

The driving motor car is due to go into the lab for testing in around a weeks time and the program in general is approximately 3 weeks behind schedule following the first driving motor car (21002) suffering an accident.

This brings you guys up to speed with the current state of the 'S' Stock. I know you are eagerly awaiting images, I haven't forgotten you, but this will take a little while longer yet (due to politics etc).

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Re: 'S' Stock build commences
« Reply #18 on Apr 27, 2008, 8:59pm »

In case anyone sees May Modern Railways there's a short section on page 6 with out of date info about S stock. It's wrong and production is full steam (well, electricity) ahead!

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« Reply #19 on May 20, 2008, 3:56pm »

Cool to see the S stock coming! I'm not very fond about the 67 stock being replaced, although I still like 2009 stock, but the S stock looks great!

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Re: 'S' Stock build commences
« Reply #20 on May 21, 2008, 8:54pm »

Just to update you all, again! There are now all eight cars of train 1 in production and two cars of train 2 also in the early stages of construction.

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Re: 'S' Stock build commences
« Reply #21 on May 22, 2008, 11:51am »

Modern Railways report (June issue) that the plan to lengthen the new 6-car trains on the H & C to 7-cars will be shelved until after the 2012 Olympics. They also suggest that S6s will be built before the Metropolitan stock. This means that the A Stock will continue to run after the C Stock has been replaced. It also says that the new Metropolitan stock will be delivered as 7-car trains, “with a car added later after infrastructure improvements”. Mmmm. That will put some cats amongst the pigeons north of Wembley Park.

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Re: 'S' Stock build commences
« Reply #22 on May 22, 2008, 3:01pm »

As I previously posted I thought the S7 project on the Circle & Hammersmith was a stupid idea due to the trains not fitting in most platforms and sidings on the line. Now hopefully someone has seen sense and shelved the idea.

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Re: 'S' Stock build commences
« Reply #23 on May 22, 2008, 4:34pm »

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the plan to lengthen the new 6-car trains on the H & C to 7-cars will be shelved until after the 2012 Olympics.

What about the Circle?

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They also suggest that S6s will be built before the Metropolitan stock. This means that the A Stock will continue to run after the C Stock has been replaced.

I hope that happens, but I think that the Met. will get their S stock first.

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It also says that the new Metropolitan stock will be delivered as 7-car trains, “with a car added later after infrastructure improvements”.

What infrastructure improvements. Met. platforms are long enough. If this was true, why would S stock train 1 be 8 car?

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Re: 'S' Stock build commences
« Reply #24 on May 22, 2008, 4:36pm »

May 20, 2008, 3:56pm, maxtube wrote:

the S stock looks great!

I don't like the S stock design, the window in the end door is too low, and couldn't they put the grey across the door? (And also on the 09TS).

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Re: 'S' Stock build commences
« Reply #25 on May 22, 2008, 5:28pm »

May 22, 2008, 4:34pm, astock5000 wrote:

What about the Circle?

The Circle and H&C are one line in timetabling, crewing and trains. So any decision regarding the H&C also applies to the Circle.

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Re: 'S' Stock build commences
« Reply #26 on May 22, 2008, 5:48pm »

The Circle/Hammersmith & City needs the trains more than the Met. With the signalling delayed the Met doesn't want fewer seats in the short/med term!

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Re: 'S' Stock build commences
« Reply #27 on May 22, 2008, 6:27pm »

May 22, 2008, 5:28pm, Jim wrote:

May 22, 2008, 4:34pm, astock5000 wrote:

What about the Circle?

The Circle and H&C are one line in timetabling, crewing and trains. So any decision regarding the H&C also applies to the Circle.

That's what I thought, but couldn't the Circle be run as part of the District? It wasn't always run with the H&C.

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Re: 'S' Stock build commences
« Reply #28 on May 22, 2008, 7:47pm »

May 22, 2008, 6:27pm, astock5000 wrote:

May 22, 2008, 5:28pm, Jim wrote:

The Circle and H&C are one line in timetabling, crewing and trains. So any decision regarding the H&C also applies to the Circle.

That's what I thought, but couldn't the Circle be run as part of the District? It wasn't always run with the H&C.

It could be, but the District would need more drivers, all drivers would need road training on the north side of the Circle and the H&C to Hammersmith as most trains end up at Hammersmith Depot, all drivers would need C stock training (currently, East end drivers don't work C stock). All this costs money.

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