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Post by Tom on Jun 27, 2010 23:08:04 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2010 23:37:21 GMT
1 is east of Parsons Green, looking downhill towards Fulham Broadway and the "long siding" (can't remember the number).
2 - not sure. Looking away from Hanger Lane Junction?
3 is Northolt siding, looking northwest.
4 - no idea.
5 is Northolt siding again.
6 - the interior of a 1967 stock? I think I recognise the handle on the pole.
7 - WF is Parsons Green, but I have no idea exactly where.
8 - no idea.
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Post by ruislip on Jun 27, 2010 23:53:21 GMT
4) Looks like it is entering Neasden depot from the northbound B'loo. The suspension bridge is the North Circular Rd. 6) Judging from the Central Line maps in the car, it could be either Hainault or Ruislip depot.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2010 23:56:58 GMT
I'm hopeless at dates, but re. locations -
Pic 1 - might be east of Parsons Green ?
Pic 2 - might be approaching Edgware ?
Pic 3 - pretty sure this is west of Northolt.
Pic 4 - definitely south end of Neasden depot - train coming back into depot from shunting neck.
Pic 5 - same place as Pic 3
Pic 6 - a 1967 stock DM for Central line service (Hainault - Woodford). Lack of adverts and general condition suggests it's brand new, except the floor doesn't look quite as sparkling as one might expect. Clearly in depot - presumably Hainault. However might be Ruislip if new 67 stock was initially delivered there - I've no first-hand knowledge on that point.
Pic 7 - The WF cabin code should answer this, but its too late tonight to start searching to check that. It clearly show two tracks of a quadruple section paired by direction, the Q23 stock is of course District line, and from the curvature and the backs of houses I would surmise it's between Baron's Court and Hammersmith W/B.
Pic 8 - The one-time 3-aspect signal suggests the Met., the P stock on a two track line suggests most probably the Uxbridge branch. I'd hazard a guess at looking westbound towards Hillingdon. The P stock would date this as very early 60s. If it is Hillingdon, then the 'new' A40 underbridge has totally changed the scene here.
Look forward to seeing what others have to say about these very interesting pictures.
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Post by Ben on Jun 28, 2010 1:59:01 GMT
No, the last one is Wood Lane; thats the old central line building on the right isn't it? A few of the 3 aspect signals ended up elsewhere around the system; also its way too built up for hillingdon.
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Post by ruislip on Jun 28, 2010 2:27:59 GMT
On 4), I notice that the destination blind reads Stanmore. I wonder if that was a train that tipped out at Neasden station or earlier due to a breakdown. I also notice a pre-1938 trailer in the mix.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2010 6:36:49 GMT
No, the last one is Wood Lane; thats the old central line building on the right isn't it? A few of the 3 aspect signals ended up elsewhere around the system; also its way too built up for hillingdon. Pic 8 - Very happy to accept this correction. The wide 6 foot way is further evidence in support of the H&C section, and yes the outline of the old bulls-eyes can be seen on the old Central London Railway station buiding.. Pic 2 - I withdraw the suggestion of Edgware. I think the bridge is the wrong design and the signal is definitely on the wrong side of the track.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2010 6:44:09 GMT
On 4), I notice that the destination blind reads Stanmore. I wonder if that was a train that tipped out at Neasden station or earlier due to a breakdown. I also notice a pre-1938 trailer in the mix. Pic 4 - Looking towards the rear of the train, I'm sure it is coming from the shunting neck behind the S/B fast (Met) platform. Also the oil lamp would only have been in place on trains actually in the depot, not on ones which were stabling from the main line. Hence my belief this train is being shunted from one road to another.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2010 7:28:32 GMT
1. East of Parsons Green from the footbridge to 28 Road 2. Hanger Lane Junction towards Ealing Broadway 3. Northolt siding towards West Ruislip 4. Neasden South old layout shunt from long removed 6 Road 5. As 3. but from platform 6. New 1967 stock at West Ruislip depot 7. Parsons Green 28 Road and footbridge 8. H&C viaduct west of Wood Lane
Edit 6. Just spotted the Central route map so maybe Hainault when they ran on the shuttle
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Post by Ben on Jun 28, 2010 14:34:57 GMT
Looks like 2 standards in that 38ts pic; second car from front aswell.
Tom, whats the address of your flickr account?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2010 16:40:03 GMT
As there are definately two 58 trailers in the formation in No 4 the date would be pre-1973 when the last of them was withdrawn. It also proves beyond any shadow of doubt that some sets ran with two 58 trailers. Another thread solved! No 7 would be before September 1971 as that is when the Q stock went. It looks like it is still in service as the shoegear is intact. No 5 is taken before the 59/62 stock was fitted with stabling lights which became the easy way of distinguishing between the two types.
The Pway staff in 1 and 2 either demonstrating the wrong way to trackwalk for a safety campaign or being very silly. Walking in the 'four-foot' with your back to the oncoming trains is not wise.....
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Post by Tom on Jun 28, 2010 20:47:31 GMT
Thanks all for your suggestions. I was 99% certain about all but the first one - for some reason I didn't think it was Parsons Green, but I'll have a closer look at the scale plans now. The Northolt, Hanger Lane Junction and White City ones I was 100% on - I've got some of the number plates from that area. I knew I'd forgotten to mention the address! www.flickr.com/signals
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