Ben
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Post by Ben on Jul 21, 2010 1:02:09 GMT
73ts was at one time only banned on the Bakerloo from London Road Depot, and on the BR owned sections. Its got to be remembered that at one time the Central, Northern and Bakerloo were all thought impossible to fit >52½' stock on. Where theres a will theres a way...
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Post by Burkitt on Jul 22, 2010 15:31:08 GMT
According to the latest issue of Modern Railways, the bidders for the new Piccadilly Line trains, Alstom and CAF, were informed on 9th July that the tendering process had been cancelled. Apparently they had previously been told that there would be an eight year delay to the procurement.
So the 1973 stock will probably remain in service for at least another decade.
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hobbayne
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Post by hobbayne on Jul 22, 2010 19:52:03 GMT
Good! I cannot see why it needs replacing anyway? It is by far the most reliable stock on the underground! a pleasure to drive and a simple stock to learn!.
However, another decade of use will put them at 47 years old, but the A stock is only being phased out at 50!
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Post by metman on Jul 22, 2010 22:37:22 GMT
It will be interesting to see how they perform in ten years time! They are not quite as robust as the A stock but I'm a fan of any stock with PCM in this world of AC motors!
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Post by prjb on Jul 24, 2010 21:39:11 GMT
Perhaps Hitatchi would be interesting in expanding their foothold in the UK market, although I doubt that prjb would enjoy commuting backwards and forwards between London and Japan as often as he travels up to Derby for the S stock programme... You can say that again!  |
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Post by prjb on Jul 24, 2010 21:43:56 GMT
a pleasure to drive and a simple stock to learn! Really? Whilst I admit they do drive well, I have to say that I found them an odd stock in terms of defect handling. The TMS indications were all a bit odd when I did stock training (admittedly it was over 10 years ago now) but maaybe that was just me!  |
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Post by SE13 on Jul 25, 2010 20:38:53 GMT
Perhaps Hitatchi would be interesting in expanding their foothold in the UK market, although I doubt that prjb would enjoy commuting backwards and forwards between London and Japan as often as he travels up to Derby for the S stock programme... You can say that again! Does that mean the 73's will keep running until they fall apart? Look at those 72's and 92's first |
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Post by glom on Jul 27, 2010 14:53:41 GMT
Nothing public has come out from TfL. Is this confirmed? What knock on effect is this going to have on the rest of rolling stock renewal?
And does someone here edit Wikipedia?
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Post by Guest on Jul 30, 2010 6:11:55 GMT
You can say that again! Does that mean the 73's will keep running until they fall apart? That could take a very very long time, when you consider how much of the equipment is interchangeable with D Stock. If the Picc guys get free reign to take what they need when D stock is scrapped they could have a lifetime's worth of spares + some more just in case. The only headache will be the refurb kit . |
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Post by jpd888 on Jul 31, 2010 8:20:20 GMT
lack of reversing points? wouldn't wood green, arnos grove and oakwood (to depot) be enough?
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Post by Andrew C on Aug 16, 2010 9:05:29 GMT
Aren't the D stock and 73 TS supposed to be tube/SSR versions of each other? Singaporesam's point would be very valid indeed in that case...
But we can't make the 73's last forever...
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Post by Colin on Aug 16, 2010 14:48:18 GMT
Aren't the D stock and 73 TS supposed to be tube/SSR versions of each other? No - D & 83ts were direct relatives. The D stocks are based on the 73ts in terms of how they work technically (ie, electrical circuits, braking system, etc), and do share a few things in common - the obvious being the wheels, which makes the D's rather odd for full size stock in that it has 'tube' sized wheels. I can't imagine there being so much of use from a scrapped D that it would ensure a lifetimes supply of parts for a 73ts, but if that is the case, it would certainly speak volumes for foresight all those years ago. |
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Post by Andrew C on Aug 16, 2010 14:53:09 GMT
So that's why the 83s and the Ds are the only stocks to have ever had single doors?
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Post by t697 on Aug 16, 2010 18:08:29 GMT
Aren't the D stock and 73 TS supposed to be tube/SSR versions of each other? No - D & 83ts were direct relatives. The D stocks are based on the 73ts in terms of how they work technically (ie, electrical circuits, braking system, etc), and do share a few things in common - the obvious being the wheels, which makes the D's rather odd for full size stock in that it has 'tube' sized wheels. I can't imagine there being so much of use from a scrapped D that it would ensure a lifetimes supply of parts for a 73ts, but if that is the case, it would certainly speak volumes for foresight all those years ago. The 73TS and D stock traction motors and wheelsets are interchangeable. Also much of the traction control equipment, various other relays, switches etc. They were indeed thinking about standardisation at the time. There is more obvious visual relation between D and 83TS, but rather little common equipment, although lots of the cab push buttons were reclaimed from 83TS as spares for D stock. |
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Post by youngone on Aug 16, 2010 18:46:02 GMT
Nothing public has come out from TfL. Is this confirmed? What knock on effect is this going to have on the rest of rolling stock renewal? And does someone here edit Wikipedia? I think anybody can edit Wikipedia. I have a few times. There's an EDIT link next to each part of an article. Click it and you can edit it from there and save it. Then it 's there for the world to see. No account needed. |
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