S stock delivery & introduction - discussion

[cso]

That's certainly how it looks from the trains I've seen being delivered at Risborough...

[Deep Level]

How long now until we have more S Stock Trains than A Stock Trains? Both in London and in Service.

[juliang]

Mar 6, 2012 20:14:06 GMT Deep Level said:

How long now until we have more S Stock Trains than A Stock Trains? Both in London and in Service.

There are about 28 S-stocks and 30 A-stocks in service, although I could be wrong

[kabsonline]

It must be around that number. The chances of getting an S Stock now when waiting seems 50/50 of maybe even higher now

[undergrounddriver]

what are the booked return paths for the choppers?

i fancy a camera run next week....

[bentley67502000]

The 2 x class 20's run as followed on Tuesdays and Thursdays until 22nd March.

Neasden Depot (F) dep
11 13
Wembley Park (pfm. 1)
11 22½
FL
Harrow-on-the-Hill (pfm. 4)
11/30
Rayners Lane
11/35
Ruislip
11/40
Ruislip IMR
11/41½
Ruislip Siding
arr
11 42½
dep
11 48
Ruislip Depot (East end)
arr
12 03
dep
12 05
Ruislip Depot (West end)
12 20
Network Rail Link
arr
12 23

[a60]

I'm sure this has been asked before, but what is the situation with 21001/2 and 21099/100?

[Dstock7080]

Mar 13, 2012 21:35:08 GMT a60 said:

I'm sure this has been asked before, but what is the situation with 21001/2 and 21099/100?

They have both been test trains, 21001/2 formed as 7-cars, 21099/100 as 8-cars.
Both have returned to Derby being refitted as production S8s.

[metman]

I heard they would be scrapped as the 2009 stock PP1/2 were?!

[bronzeonion]

I'd hope not, as that is by far one of the most stupid things LU have done

[andypurk]

Mar 13, 2012 23:28:41 GMT bronzeonion said:

I'd hope not, as that is by far one of the most stupid things LU have done

But it's not LU making the decision, it is Bombardier. They are the company responsible for deciding to break up the prototype units and build replacements, rather than refitting the prototypes to match the production units.

[tubeprune]

Rumour of a rough shunt at Old Dalby between two S Stock trains earlier this week. Anyone heard anything?

[bronzeonion]

Mar 15, 2012 10:44:21 GMT andypurk said:

Mar 13, 2012 23:28:41 GMT bronzeonion said:

I'd hope not, as that is by far one of the most stupid things LU have done

But it's not LU making the decision, it is Bombardier. They are the company responsible for deciding to break up the prototype units and build replacements, rather than refitting the prototypes to match the production units.

So LU dont get a say in wether they'd like to keep the train or not?

[billoo]

Mar 15, 2012 10:44:21 GMT andypurk said:

Mar 13, 2012 23:28:41 GMT bronzeonion said:

I'd hope not, as that is by far one of the most stupid things LU have done

But it's not LU making the decision, it is Bombardier. They are the company responsible for deciding to break up the prototype units and build replacements, rather than refitting the prototypes to match the production units.

Were any parts of the pre-production (IE - the bodywork/interior) used on the final production trains?

[andypurk]

Mar 15, 2012 16:10:27 GMT bronzeonion said:

Mar 15, 2012 10:44:21 GMT andypurk said:

But it's not LU making the decision, it is Bombardier. They are the company responsible for deciding to break up the prototype units and build replacements, rather than refitting the prototypes to match the production units.

So LU dont get a say in wether they'd like to keep the train or not?

Probably not, if the contract is to deliver x number of units then it will be up to the manufacturer whether they wish to reuse any prototypes.

It will probably be better in the long run not to have modified prototype units running together with the production fleet.