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Post by andyjg on May 2, 2011 9:20:32 GMT
On the Met I've noticed there is equipment I believe to prevent wrong side door opening.
Is there similar equipment on the Central Line or does the ATO take care of it or is it down to train operator vigilance?
Andy
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Post by aslefshrugged on May 2, 2011 9:28:17 GMT
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Post by superteacher on May 2, 2011 11:17:25 GMT
On the Met I've noticed there is equipment I believe to prevent wrong side door opening. Is there similar equipment on the Central Line or does the ATO take care of it or is it down to train operator vigilance? Andy I believe it is only the 1967 stock that currently does not have CSDE enabled, and these will all be gone in a few weeks. Does anyone know why the 67's weren't fitted? |
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Post by notatraindriver on May 2, 2011 11:37:14 GMT
I dont understand why it's needed to be honest.
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Post by v52gc on May 2, 2011 11:48:10 GMT
Security?
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Post by tomgholmes on May 2, 2011 12:01:22 GMT
I dont understand why it's needed to be honest. To prevent accidents. |
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Post by aslefshrugged on May 2, 2011 12:03:02 GMT
If you read the trainweb page I linked it was brought in when we went OPO. Guards open their own platform-side door to check everything is ticketyboo before opening up the passenger doors and when they made us OPO they introduced this to reduce the risk of opening doors on the wrong side.
Even today if the doors won’t open it is still part of our procedure for the TOp to open up the platform-side cab door to check everythign is ok before operating the CSDE override switch.
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Post by Guest on May 2, 2011 14:29:27 GMT
Having clicked on the link, I am confused by this
The Train Operator then opens his cab door on the side of the train where the platform is located, and confirms this by putting one foot onto the platform. This is to overcome the possibility of opening the doors on the wrong side of the train.
I've never seen a Train Operator enter or exit his train from the side. It is always through the door accessed from inside the first car.
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Post by superteacher on May 2, 2011 14:57:29 GMT
Having clicked on the link, I am confused by this The Train Operator then opens his cab door on the side of the train where the platform is located, and confirms this by putting one foot onto the platform. This is to overcome the possibility of opening the doors on the wrong side of the train.I've never seen a Train Operator enter or exit his train from the side. It is always through the door accessed from inside the first car. It is only the 1967 and 1972 stocks where the driver has to enter through the door leading to the carriage (the J door). All other stocks have side cab doors, and they will normally enter or leave by this route, unless the cab is in the tunnel. Occasionally, drivers on these stocks still enter via the J door, although there is no obvious reason for so doing. |
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Post by Harry MonkFish on May 2, 2011 16:40:12 GMT
Having clicked on the link, I am confused by this The Train Operator then opens his cab door on the side of the train where the platform is located, and confirms this by putting one foot onto the platform. This is to overcome the possibility of opening the doors on the wrong side of the train.I've never seen a Train Operator enter or exit his train from the side. It is always through the door accessed from inside the first car. And it is not always possible to do so, either because there's no platform or now near or offside cab door! |
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Post by EirikhO on May 2, 2011 17:04:14 GMT
Having clicked on the link, I am confused by this The Train Operator then opens his cab door on the side of the train where the platform is located, and confirms this by putting one foot onto the platform. This is to overcome the possibility of opening the doors on the wrong side of the train.I've never seen a Train Operator enter or exit his train from the side. It is always through the door accessed from inside the first car. And it is not always possible to do so, either because there's no platform or now near or offside cab door!  |
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Post by Chris M on May 2, 2011 18:47:33 GMT
It is only the 1967 and 1972 stocks where the driver has to enter through the door leading to the carriage (the J door). All other stocks have side cab doors, and they will normally enter or leave by this route, unless the cab is in the tunnel. Occasionally, drivers on these stocks still enter via the J door, although there is no obvious reason for so doing. I know some staff prefer walking through the saloon to enter or exit than squeezing past the drivers chair. I can't recall seeing this though when a driver is picking up or leaving a through train (i.e. there are likely to be people sitting between the J door and first set of saloon doors. Also, on several occasions when tipping out I've seen the driver leave the cab through the J door and walk through the first carriage to check it's empty. |
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Post by bronzeonion on May 2, 2011 21:48:44 GMT
It cant be too dangerous if the doors were opened on the wrong side on the Vic to be honest, theres no where you can fall because from what ive seen theres a small wooden plank that runs along the entire length of platform on the non platform side.
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Post by Tom on May 3, 2011 0:03:24 GMT
On the Met I've noticed there is equipment I believe to prevent wrong side door opening. Is there similar equipment on the Central Line or does the ATO take care of it or is it down to train operator vigilance? Andy It's dealt with in the ATO data. One of the last few lines of code the train is given at each station is the CSDE information, either left/right/both/none. |
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Post by Deep Level on May 3, 2011 0:21:35 GMT
How wide is the loop at stations on the JLE extension?
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