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Post by jango on Aug 25, 2011 20:58:38 GMT
I'd also like to see the Central line station re-aligned without the ridiculously curved platform. But I don't really see how it's possible... Hmm. Looking at the geographic maps, the platforms must sit right where the Central line tunnels make a sharpish turn Northwards towards Liverpool Street. If we're prepared to accept the Central line platforms being shifted further North, there is scope to soften that curve by beginning a gentler turn earlier after St. Pauls. ... assuming that there's nothing else in the way. Like basements. Deep ones. |
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Post by jango on Aug 25, 2011 21:03:15 GMT
also, surely it must be time to move St Pauls anyway and create a proper interchange with the Thameslink and City Thameslink.
A radical solution could be to put the Central Line platforms on the other side of the Bank of England, but I'm not sure what it would achieve (apart from straighter platforms) as the interchange to the Northern Line wouldn't be that great.
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Post by lemmo on Aug 26, 2011 7:47:26 GMT
Were any plans drawn up for this when Thameslink was at the design stage? In terms of 'straightening' the Central, would this bring any significant operational benefits?  |
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Post by chrisvandenkieboom on Aug 29, 2011 15:16:29 GMT
I suppose that if they are gonna reconstruct Bank (and thus Monument), they could do something about the fact that if you want to change from the Central to the Circle or District, that you basically have to walk through nearly every platform, causing overcrowding at many platforms.. (or they can make sure that if you go above ground that it will be charged as a single journey on your Oyster card)
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Post by superteacher on Aug 29, 2011 19:27:01 GMT
I suppose that if they are gonna reconstruct Bank (and thus Monument), they could do something about the fact that if you want to change from the Central to the Circle or District, that you basically have to walk through nearly every platform, causing overcrowding at many platforms.. (or they can make sure that if you go above ground that it will be charged as a single journey on your Oyster card) You can get from the Central platforms to the District & Circle via the DLR route, which takes you between the DLR platforms but not actually onto them. Not sure if this is allowed at the moment though during the escalator upgrade works. |
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Post by chrisvandenkieboom on Aug 29, 2011 19:34:27 GMT
I suppose that if they are gonna reconstruct Bank (and thus Monument), they could do something about the fact that if you want to change from the Central to the Circle or District, that you basically have to walk through nearly every platform, causing overcrowding at many platforms.. (or they can make sure that if you go above ground that it will be charged as a single journey on your Oyster card) You can get from the Central platforms to the District & Circle via the DLR route, which takes you between the DLR platforms but not actually onto them. Not sure if this is allowed at the moment though during the escalator upgrade works. But it is still unhandy. A main walkway or something would be useful. (it's like a 1km walk underground, and lots of stairs :p) |
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Post by superteacher on Aug 29, 2011 19:40:29 GMT
You can get from the Central platforms to the District & Circle via the DLR route, which takes you between the DLR platforms but not actually onto them. Not sure if this is allowed at the moment though during the escalator upgrade works. But it is still unhandy. A main walkway or something would be useful. (it's like a 1km walk underground, and lots of stairs :p) I do agree - it's never been an ideal interchange. |
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Post by johnw on Aug 29, 2011 21:30:23 GMT
You can get from the Central platforms to the District & Circle via the DLR route, which takes you between the DLR platforms but not actually onto them. Not sure if this is allowed at the moment though during the escalator upgrade works.
That is a terrible long walk and far too many stairs and very narrow in places, paticulalrly for someone of more mature years. At least if you go via the Northern platforms it is fairly roomy, and you don't need to go so deep and climb back up again..
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Post by superteacher on Aug 29, 2011 21:36:36 GMT
You can get from the Central platforms to the District & Circle via the DLR route, which takes you between the DLR platforms but not actually onto them. Not sure if this is allowed at the moment though during the escalator upgrade works. That is a terrible long walk and far too many stairs and very narrow in places, paticulalrly for someone of more mature years. At least if you go via the Northern platforms it is fairly roomy, and you don't need to go so deep and climb back up again.. Although negotiating the Northern platforms during the peak is an experience! |
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Post by littleredtrain on Aug 29, 2011 23:22:03 GMT
My preferred route from District/Circle to Central/W&C would be to use Cannon St (if open), cross the road in front of the station, and walk up Wallbrook to the Bank entrance by the Magistrates Court.
Much less up & down and you don't hit the congestion in the low level of the station or have to deal with the traffic on King William St.
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Post by Ben on Aug 30, 2011 0:11:22 GMT
They should really link the new Walbrook entrance of Bank to the D/C at Cannon Street through a low level passageway. Would give Bank a lot more flexibility in times of disruption and works!
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Post by chrisvandenkieboom on Aug 31, 2011 14:34:03 GMT
My preferred route from District/Circle to Central/W&C would be to use Cannon St (if open), cross the road in front of the station, and walk up Wallbrook to the Bank entrance by the Magistrates Court. Much less up & down and you don't hit the congestion in the low level of the station or have to deal with the traffic on King William St. But that would be seen as 2 separate journeys (quickly after each other though) |
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Post by mrjrt on Aug 31, 2011 23:20:14 GMT
*cough*RIPAS*cough* ...or, remove the curves completely by extending the Central east via the DLR tunnels and the W&C to Liverpool St...  |
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Post by littleredtrain on Sept 1, 2011 0:27:33 GMT
But that would be seen as 2 separate journeys (quickly after each other though) According to the October 2010 list of OSIs (posted at londonreconnections.blogspot.com/2010/11/updated-osi-list.html) Bank to Cannon St is an OSI, so you shouldn't get charged for multiple journeys. This assumes the list hasn't changed as escalator refurbishment work at Bank has progressed, but I don't see why it should as it's such an obvious interchange. EDIT: Reading through the comments, there does seem to be some doubt as to whether that list is actually accurate and whether than Bank-Cannon St OSI exists. Seems daft if it doesn't, but then common sense can't always be relied on when it comes to Oyster. |
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Post by aslefshrugged on Sept 1, 2011 8:32:14 GMT
Any realignment to the Central Line platforms at Bank would mean shutting down Liverpool Street to Holborn, one of the busiest sections of the Tube, for a very, very long time.
Somehow I don't think local businesses aka The City would think the changes were worth the disruption.
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