Which cars are the standards? Can't find any deffinitive up to date info about which cars remain now. Not even Daves revamped website acknowleges the (perilous) existance of LUL owned standards at Acton...
The last written preserved list I've got is very out of date (1997) so I'd really appreciate an update! Thanks very much.
Clearly two of the Birmingham cars have gone and the future looks bleak for many more.
Why has there not been more of an effort to preserve these cars; surely their age makes them important? Have LUL deliberately adopted the policy that these cars would be left to rot and then quietly disposed of?
I'd prefer them to be running looking rough than vice versa, simply because once they are restored cosmetically it becomes far easier to put off any other work and leave them as stationary exibits. If they work, then no matter how ropey, theyve at least got a way to earn their means and fund any further restoration.
All of the IOW cars arrived near enough ex service condition. No matter how grotty they were its doubtful they are in anywhere near as good shape now...
I am afraid to say that the Isle of Wight Steam Railway turned down the offer of a Control trailer (the one which was used for clearance trials with No24 Calbourne in 1966) when the Standard stock was being replaced by the '38 stock in 1989. Their negative attitude towards this stock has not changed, despite their stated desire to preserve items with an Island railway history.
Asbestos is probably the reason for scrapping. It is often the case that asbestos cannot be removed without causing considerable damage. There are many components however that can be recovered as spares for that stock that is being preserved.
Asbestos may have played a role in the decision not to accept the offer of a CT by NSE to the Isle of Wight Railway in the late 80's, but the official reason was given as "lack of space". This may well have been true to a point, but I have always thought "lack of interest" would have been more accurate. It is surprising how many people regarded the "Mole Trains" as a bit of a joke, but the lack of representative vehicles on the Island today means in effect a loss of revenue from those who would have come to see them. Standard stock cannot be seen on display anywhere today on a regular basis, so I consider that decision to be ill judged. As I understand it, asbestos in any item for preservation is best left undisturbed. It becomes a hazard if the item is to be dismantled / scrapped, or if major structural work is required in the area where asbestos is located, and stands a chance of being broken. Awareness and responsibilty lies with the owner if any of these situations are likely to arise.
Post by christopher125 on Nov 22, 2011 1:20:42 GMT
That seems rather unfair, lack of space and asbestos are pretty fundamental issues. While they may not interest everyone at the IWSR, i remember seeing a few years back that they'd like to have a '38 cab in their new rolling stock shed when its built which presumably remains the case.
Yes, it probably is unfair, but I have no doubt that space could have been found had there been the enthusiasm and interest. The decision to turn down the offer was made without reference to the wider membership, who may well have supported the project both in terms of practical and financial help. There may well have been other issues to consider, but this has not prevented other individuals and preserved railways from securing stock of a similar vintage and build, with all of the problems they contain. The future aim of the IWSR to aquire a '38 cab for display is to be applauded, although it would be like presenting a Rolls Royce Grille with no car behind it. Sorry if that sounds negative, but I have never believed in half measures.
Having been an IoW member since the early days (member 280) I was rather disappointed that this was the case. As you say, lack of space was the official reason at the time, but room has since been found for all manner of historic tat which has subsequently been rebuilt and is running again!