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Post by jjerome95 on Jul 14, 2012 17:25:10 GMT
So for now is Pudding Mill Lane just a placing place on the road to Stratford? If only they could use the old Platform 4 at Stratford, they could really use the DLR well during the Games
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Post by aslefshrugged on Jul 15, 2012 6:22:39 GMT
So for now is Pudding Mill Lane just a placing place on the road to Stratford? If only they could use the old Platform 4 at Stratford, they could really use the DLR well during the Games I would imagine that re-opening Platform 4 would be quite expensive and utterly redundant after the Games. There is also the question of whether they'd have enough trains available to fill all three platforms. Another reason why Pudding Mill Lane is closed is that it is actually within the Olympic Park, only ticket holders will be allowed into the Park so you'd need a ticket just to get off. Something I noticed, Custom House will be exit only while Prince Regent will be entrance only. Now I can understand how you stop people entering a station thus making it exit only but just how do you stop people getting off a train and leaving a station? When I worked on stations I never was asked to do this, any suggestions?
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Post by Chris M on Jul 15, 2012 13:31:55 GMT
You almost certainly can't stop people getting off a train, but you can arrange station passages etc to make it very difficult for them to exit (always going against flow) which is how the entrance building at Tower Hill is organises iirc. Obviously the station will have to be able to funtion as an exit in an emergency.
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Post by aslefshrugged on Jul 15, 2012 15:00:21 GMT
I see G4S staff/squaddies on the platform with cattle prods lying in wait for anyone who dares to get off..............
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Post by etr220 on Jul 15, 2012 16:19:38 GMT
I see G4S staff/squaddies on the platform with cattle prods lying in wait for anyone who dares to get off.............. There won't be any of them to spare for such purposes  - or was the great increase in numbers specially for that? 
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Post by jjerome95 on Jul 16, 2012 3:34:48 GMT
Another reason why Pudding Mill Lane is closed is that it is actually within the Olympic Park, only ticket holders will be allowed into the Park so you'd need a ticket just to get off. Is Pudding Mill Lane the only station within the Park?
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Post by Deep Level on Jul 16, 2012 6:22:21 GMT
I believe Stratford International is classed as being inside the Olympic Park although the security cordons will go around it and Westfield Stratford City. Hackney Wick is just on the border.
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Post by aslefshrugged on Jul 16, 2012 7:19:20 GMT
If Westfield were inside the Park that would mean a serious slump in sales as only ticket holders would be allowed to shop.
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Post by Sean B on Jul 16, 2012 16:03:58 GMT
If Westfield were inside the Park that would mean a serious slump in sales as only ticket holders would be allowed to shop. From what I've been told, the cordon has been specially planned so that normal shopping is disrupted as little as possible, so you should still be able to get in to Westfield without a ticket.
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Post by Deep Level on Jul 17, 2012 0:12:11 GMT
If Westfield were inside the Park that would mean a serious slump in sales as only ticket holders would be allowed to shop. Yes but as I mentioned previously, the security cordon will go around it.
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Post by causton on Jul 17, 2012 0:21:21 GMT
If Westfield were inside the Park that would mean a serious slump in sales as only ticket holders would be allowed to shop. From what I've been told, the cordon has been specially planned so that normal shopping is disrupted as little as possible, so you should still be able to get in to Westfield without a ticket. Just not in your Chelsea Tractor ;D
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Post by jjerome95 on Jul 17, 2012 2:42:39 GMT
As far as I've read, Pudding Mill Lane is not adapted for 3 car trains, however I'm sure the passing is. I think it's interesting how quickly the points have to be changed as the trains are longer than the last time pudding mill was a passing place.
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Post by rsdworker on Jul 17, 2012 12:25:06 GMT
As far as I've read, Pudding Mill Lane is not adapted for 3 car trains, however I'm sure the passing is. I think it's interesting how quickly the points have to be changed as the trains are longer than the last time pudding mill was a passing place. the new one will be 3 car ability - but old one isn't able to have 3 cars because no new extension built
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Post by reganorak on Jul 17, 2012 13:39:46 GMT
Pudding Mill Lane westbound can take 3-vehicle trains as it was lengthened at the east (Stratford) end.
The eastbound (towards Stratford) cannot, where trains operate with "selective door opening" (SDO) as also at Cutty Sark, Elverson Road, Gallions Reach and Royal Albert.
One would assume that the new PML will be 3-vehicles long for both directions.
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Post by antje on Jul 18, 2012 8:36:11 GMT
Pudding Mill Lane can be open for the Olympics, only if it was big enough. But it is only a small island with a small ticket hall, and it is tempting for tourists to get off at the nearest station possible and jam up the narrow passageway.
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