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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2014 17:36:06 GMT
Been using LO most days Monday-Saturday since the end of 2007 - mainly DC Lines and NLL - and never once been ticket checked in more than six years. Seems to make the scrolling message on the trains about Penalty Fares a little pointless.
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Post by gantshill on Aug 11, 2014 19:13:28 GMT
And I happened to go Clapham Junction - Shepherd's Bush, then Shepherd's Bush - West Hampstead today and there were revenue protection staff on both journeys. Certainly on the first journey I observed two pairs of people taken off the train for penalty notice to be issued.
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Post by mcmaddog on Aug 11, 2014 23:51:19 GMT
Just the way chance works, I've travelled from Forest Hill to London Bridge nearly every weekday for 5 years and never had an onboard check and yet I occasionally take the ELL and have been checked probably 4 or 5 times now since it reopened.
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Post by redbond on Aug 12, 2014 9:18:13 GMT
I think there are more Revenue staff based on the ELL than the other lines. Usually at least twice a shift I have them on my trains.
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Post by bicbasher on Aug 12, 2014 15:20:34 GMT
The ELL RPI's along with the TravelSafe officers are based at Surrey Quays I think?
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Post by snoggle on Aug 12, 2014 17:49:11 GMT
London Overground is the mode where I encounter the highest volume of revenue inspections. Way ahead of any other TOC, LU, DLR or the buses. I won't say it happens on every journey because it doesn't but proportionately there are far more checks on train and on interchange links.
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Post by Tomcakes on Aug 12, 2014 20:05:55 GMT
London Overground is the mode where I encounter the highest volume of revenue inspections. Way ahead of any other TOC, LU, DLR or the buses. I won't say it happens on every journey because it doesn't but proportionately there are far more checks on train and on interchange links. Granted LU or DLR or buses, but definitely not other TOCs. Most TOCs do ticket checks on every journey, although I suppose on inner suburban lines there is little time for the guard (where present) to go through the train between stations, let alone if any passengers require tickets.
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Post by causton on Aug 12, 2014 20:08:38 GMT
Most TOCs do ticket checks on every journey Not sure about that one. What about the many, many DOO services where there are no guards? And comparitively little RPIs? What about South West Trains' inner suburban services operated by 455s where guards never come out? I've been on 458s and a few 450s as well on local London journeys and rarely get checked in the Oyster area.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2014 20:16:51 GMT
Had a surprising amount of ticket checks on the DLR; never seen any other RPIs, apart from one time at the top of the escalators at Notting Hill Central.
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Post by metrailway on Aug 13, 2014 0:51:17 GMT
London Overground is the mode where I encounter the highest volume of revenue inspections. Way ahead of any other TOC, LU, DLR or the buses. I won't say it happens on every journey because it doesn't but proportionately there are far more checks on train and on interchange links. Have to disagree. I've never had a check on LO and I use it regularly. In my experience, the other TOCs are far more stringent in ticket inspections. I guess it depends on the type of services you use. I am a regular medium/long distance traveller and about 90% of my journeys have at least one ticket check. I suspect it is rather different for inner London services due to Oyster. I've only had one check on LU and that was before Oyster was invented!
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Post by bicbasher on Aug 13, 2014 0:58:14 GMT
On Southern metro, hardly ever, although I was recently checked at London Bridge on the footbridge by Southern RPI's. LO on the ELL is at least once every two to three months on board or at the gateline at my local station.
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Post by snoggle on Aug 13, 2014 10:35:21 GMT
London Overground is the mode where I encounter the highest volume of revenue inspections. Way ahead of any other TOC, LU, DLR or the buses. I won't say it happens on every journey because it doesn't but proportionately there are far more checks on train and on interchange links. Have to disagree. I've never had a check on LO and I use it regularly. In my experience, the other TOCs are far more stringent in ticket inspections. I guess it depends on the type of services you use. I am a regular medium/long distance traveller and about 90% of my journeys have at least one ticket check. I suspect it is rather different for inner London services due to Oyster. I've only had one check on LU and that was before Oyster was invented! I'm sure that on your regular trips, because of the longer distance, that you will get your ticket checked. I don't make many such trips these days. My journeys are within London and shorter distance. The dangers of making general comments and not defining criteria more narrowly.
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Post by Tomcakes on Aug 13, 2014 10:47:27 GMT
Also, aside from the use of Oyster, most stations in London have a ticket office or ticket machine, whereas elsewhere there is a great reliance on the guard to collect fares where no ticketing facilities exist, or where they won't sell the ticket the passenger wants.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2014 13:39:37 GMT
Been using LO most days Monday-Saturday since the end of 2007 - mainly DC Lines and NLL - and never once been ticket checked in more than six years. Seems to make the scrolling message on the trains about Penalty Fares a little pointless. I've had a few ticket checks on LO trains but never on LU and very rare on any TOC services in the London area
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Post by messiah on Aug 24, 2014 14:04:31 GMT
On the DLR the train 'captain' or whatever the official name checks a lot (at least on the bank to lewisham route). As there are (mostly) no barriers this is probably necessary for revenue protection.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2014 14:34:27 GMT
Twice on LU for me, by the same person, I think! Probably at least twice on the DLR, too - both on the same day.
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Post by Chris M on Aug 27, 2014 18:53:11 GMT
I think I've only once had my ticket checked on an LO train, and that was on the Goblin. LU I've had it twice - once between South Wimbledon and Morden and the other time between Paddington and Royal Oak. DLR probably on about a third of journeys overall.
NR - very variable, I didn't get my ticket checked at all between Waterloo and Poole on Saturday (at least partly because the train was full and standing as far as Southampton) but it was checked twice on the return journey yesterday. First Great Western tend not to check after about 8pm on the westbound intercity services in my experience.
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Post by melikepie on Aug 28, 2014 13:11:59 GMT
I've never had it on the tube or DLR and only occasionally on TOCs. It is surprising to learn they do it on the tube.
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