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Post by A60stock on Oct 21, 2014 17:45:09 GMT
always wondered this as it is an oyster/tfl service.
Are there any plans to start showing it on future tube maps?
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Post by superteacher on Oct 21, 2014 17:57:52 GMT
Trams are a bit of a grey area. But then again, the cable car is in the map, so I suppose there is an argument to put on Tramlink too.
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Post by A60stock on Oct 21, 2014 18:12:35 GMT
it is just surprising as its quite a large service now and serves a fair proportion of south london
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2014 18:15:11 GMT
I don't think the cable car should be on the map, I think it's only there 'cause it was the head honcho's pet project. Personally when I look at the rail connections map, I struggle to see the wood for the trees and it ends up telling me almost nothing, it's just too cluttered and too busy. Frankly I think we're getting to the point where the Overground has outstayed its welcome on what's supposed to be the tube map, but we know that the thing about the tube map is that it's a point of reference for a lot of people and many, tourists and locals (such as me) alike, fail to see past it and navigate solely with it. This means that if your station/line is on the tube map, it gets more patronage, in general. But anyway, my point is, put tramlink on there and it'll get very cluttered, hard to read, and you may find that either the printed versions have to get bigger, or the contents have to get smaller and/or more cramped.
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Post by crusty54 on Oct 21, 2014 18:39:32 GMT
It's a Tube map
You couldn't fit all the stops on the folder map
It does appear on the London's Railways map
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Post by rincew1nd on Oct 21, 2014 23:53:29 GMT
It's a Tube map You couldn't fit all the stops on the folder map It does appear on the London's Railways map. AOL, it's on the London Connections map. I'd rather see the Dangleway removed from the "Tube Map" than the Trams added. |
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Post by Indefatigable on Oct 22, 2014 0:02:08 GMT
I'd rather see the Dangleway removed from the "Tube Map" than the Trams added. I've never heard it called that before, rincew1nd! Is lack of space the only reason why it does not appear on the maps? |
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Post by rincew1nd on Oct 22, 2014 0:06:32 GMT
Is lack of space the only reason why it does not appear on the maps? I would suspect the opposite; a little bit of space where a small triplet of lines can be added. Oh, and a big sponsorship deal. [/cynic] |
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Post by abe on Oct 23, 2014 8:08:16 GMT
And if appearing on the "Tube map" boosts the number of people using a service (viz. London Overground) then it can't hurt to put the cable-car on - regardless of one's feelings about it as a mode of transport. It's not as if it clutters the map (unlike the wheelchair symbols), and TramLink would require more space at the bottom of the map.
TfL should really admit what the map is by renaming it a "TfL services map", and probably making it in a slightly larger format...
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Post by brigham on Oct 23, 2014 21:18:57 GMT
The Tyne Ferry is on the Tyneside Metro map. It's an isolated one-off service of interest to only a very few potential travellers, much like London's aerial flight, but it could shorten a journey for those not averse to walking up steep hills. Curiously, the Tyne Tunnels are not featured.
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Post by crusty54 on Oct 24, 2014 6:16:45 GMT
And if appearing on the "Tube map" boosts the number of people using a service (viz. London Overground) then it can't hurt to put the cable-car on - regardless of one's feelings about it as a mode of transport. It's not as if it clutters the map (unlike the wheelchair symbols), and TramLink would require more space at the bottom of the map. TfL should really admit what the map is by renaming it a "TfL services map", and probably making it in a slightly larger format... But research shows people like the pocket size so bigger is not better. |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Oct 24, 2014 7:48:44 GMT
But research shows people like the pocket size so bigger is not better. As happened on Paris a few years ago, a horizontal fold could be added so that the folded version has no greater dimension except being slightly thicker. |
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Post by brigham on Oct 24, 2014 10:05:06 GMT
The station I was looking for would invariably be obliterated by the horizontal fold!
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Post by crusty54 on Oct 24, 2014 16:47:13 GMT
But research shows people like the pocket size so bigger is not better. As happened on Paris a few years ago, a horizontal fold could be added so that the folded version has no greater dimension except being slightly thicker. Not without adding significantly to the cost and bulking up the map. Please look at the diagram. The number of stops with interchanges can't be a simple add on. |
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Post by brigham on Oct 24, 2014 16:52:59 GMT
Trams would then be followed by buses. Then river services. There has to be a limit.
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Post by rincew1nd on Oct 27, 2014 5:25:12 GMT
Trams would then be followed by buses. Then river services. There has to be a limit. Here, here. Exactly why this forum sticks to Railways, if it runs on roads it's not for us. |
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Post by wimblephil on Oct 27, 2014 7:18:26 GMT
Trams would then be followed by buses. Then river services. There has to be a limit. Here, here. Exactly why this forum sticks to Railways, if it runs on roads it's not for us. But Trams do run on Rails... I personally feel the Tram is closer to a light rail system than it is a bus, due it it's restriction to run on a particular route network, unlike buses which can roam anywhere. But sadly that is not the consensus of the forum, so they remain off-topic! |
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