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Post by phillw48 on Aug 20, 2015 23:05:45 GMT
Most of us are familiar with part-works from the likes of Atlas and Hatchet. Over recent months I have purchased several models produced by Atlas in particular. These have been of various French railcars in HO scale and are very similar in nature to the EFE tube stock and of similar quality and detail. There appears to be two or three similar series with different themes (Michelin, Suburban, Regional). I was wondering if a similar series covering the Underground would attract any interest. It could cover anything from the early steam stock to quite recent stock and both tube and surface stock. It could even include models that would not otherwise be expected to be produced such as the 1960 Cravens stock. The LT Museum might even consider sponsoring such a series. What are the forum members thoughts on this?
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Post by spsmiler on Aug 20, 2015 23:20:32 GMT
Whilst solely underground trains would be of interest the spectrum would be broadened if it included all of London's transports, including trams, DLR, buses, and possibly even mainline railways.
As for Underground trains I'd like to see the Cravens trains, the Watford Joint stock, the Pullman coaches, the Southend Corridor Express carriages, gate end rolling stock, the experimental sliding door carriages on the powst-war Met Line and ancient historic Metropolitan and District railway stock extending all the way back to 1863.
Simon
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Post by phillw48 on Aug 21, 2015 17:17:56 GMT
Whilst solely underground trains would be of interest the spectrum would be broadened if it included all of London's transports, including trams, DLR, buses, and possibly even mainline railways. As for Underground trains I'd like to see the Cravens trains, the Watford Joint stock, the Pullman coaches, the Southend Corridor Express carriages, gate end rolling stock, the experimental sliding door carriages on the powst-war Met Line and ancient historic Metropolitan and District railway stock extending all the way back to 1863. Simon I meant all of the above and inclusive of the Waterloo and City, the Great Northern and City, the GE stock used on the Epping Ongar line. If you include engineering stock and none passenger coaching stock such as the Metropolitan milk van there is 180 to 200 items of stock. |
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Post by The Tram Man on Aug 22, 2015 12:08:42 GMT
Well, if they are produced in a similar fashion to the EFE models, then i'd be very interested. But if loco hauled carriges were to be produced, i personally would like to see them ready to run. the GE stock used on the Epping Ongar line. What GE stock? |
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Post by arun on Aug 22, 2015 12:28:25 GMT
A whole variety Tram Man - 51ft Gresley push-pull carriages, J15 0-6-0 tender steam engines and F4/F5 [and hybrid F5/6]] 2-4-2 tank engines for example.
Arun
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Post by The Tram Man on Aug 22, 2015 14:04:47 GMT
Oh, Great Eastern? I thought he meant General Electric. My bad! Boy, do i feel stupid.
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Post by phillw48 on Aug 22, 2015 18:33:18 GMT
If I had any say in it the surface stock would have NEM pockets but fitted with a replica of the prototype coupling (3-link, screw or buckeye etc.) so that you can fit your own choice. Wheels would probably be the same and like the EFE stock where you can change them to ones of your choice, and in many cases people will want to motorise some models. Remember that these are firstly a collectors series like the current 'Great British Locomotives' series.
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Post by spsmiler on Aug 23, 2015 0:12:38 GMT
Whilst solely underground trains would be of interest the spectrum would be broadened if it included all of London's transports, including trams, DLR, buses, and possibly even mainline railways. As for Underground trains I'd like to see the Cravens trains, the Watford Joint stock, the Pullman coaches, the Southend Corridor Express carriages, gate end rolling stock, the experimental sliding door carriages on the powst-war Met Line and ancient historic Metropolitan and District railway stock extending all the way back to 1863. Simon I meant all of the above and inclusive of the Waterloo and City, the Great Northern and City, the GE stock used on the Epping Ongar line. If you include engineering stock and none passenger coaching stock such as the Metropolitan milk van there is 180 to 200 items of stock. Wow, thats a lot... quite an amazing figure for just one city! I can see some people wanting multiple items of some rolling stocks, either for use as static items at stations / on sidings or for use as part of moving trains. Here's an idea for a model railway... a heritage centre, served by a live railway which also operates heritage trains. Throw in a bus ralleye, working trams (both heritage and again used as daily transport), trolleybuses etc.  Simon |
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Post by phillw48 on Aug 23, 2015 12:55:49 GMT
It is a lot, but remember the Underground system of today dates back over 150 years and each individual line has had its own distinctive rolling stock and its only very recently that the 'one size fits all' has come into being with the introduction of the 'S' stock. There are now twelve Underground lines plus the DLR and Overground, each with its own distinct history, liveries and rolling stock. Many indeed such as the Metropolitan and the District several generations of stock.
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Post by spsmiler on Aug 23, 2015 23:25:19 GMT
No doubt a few people will be delighted to have the correct trains to model obscure and largely forgotten things such as the LBSCR overhead wire electrics!
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Post by Antje on Aug 24, 2015 13:58:28 GMT
I’m sorry about this, but my brain thinks Partworks have a rather bad stereotype, that stereotype being that a partwork launches at a low price, and then eventually gets cancelled after a few issues due to low sales. I’m not implying that it happens to all partworks, though.
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Post by phillw48 on Aug 24, 2015 16:36:33 GMT
I’m sorry about this, but my brain thinks Partworks have a rather bad stereotype, that stereotype being that a partwork launches at a low price, and then eventually gets cancelled after a few issues due to low sales. I’m not implying that it happens to all partworks, though. Usually Atlas and others such as Hatchet carry on until the finish and prices are no more and quite often less than the equivalent model in the shops as is evident by the number of products made by companies such as Oxford and Corgi that appear in the Atlas range in particular and at the same price as those manufacturers normal products. The reason they seem to disappear is that W H Smiths and other retailers will only stock partworks for the first few editions then drop them from their orders, usually when the next partwork starts. This is why Atlas in particular has gone over to direct selling. If such a series was produced in conjunction with the LT museum individual models would probably be available from the museum shop. This happens in the case of the Eddie Stobart trucks series produced by Atlas, the same models can be purchased from the Stobart shop, and a lot cheaper than on e-bay or at swap meets. |
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