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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2016 19:58:06 GMT
I hope it's okay to post this but many of you may never have travelled on the old District Line trains with their distinctive sounds.
Someone very lovely on YouTube has posted what appears to be an old LT video, I particularly like the segment towards the end with lots of footage of the dark, cold winter of 1982. The glow of the bulbs in an R Stock train at Hammersmith look particularly cosy.
Still looking for the holy grail, full line cabviews video of Underground lines from the 60's, 70's or early 80's. They probably don't exist.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Sept 16, 2016 20:11:30 GMT
The glow of the bulbs in an R Stock train at Hammersmith look particularly cosy. . Didn't R stock have fluorescent tubes? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2016 20:16:15 GMT
I hope it's okay to post this  It seems fine to me, but if you're in doubt, it's always better to ask a member of forum staff first and we'd be happy to help you, rather than risk doing the damage and then having to try and fix it . |
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Post by superteacher on Sept 18, 2016 13:59:14 GMT
The glow of the bulbs in an R Stock train at Hammersmith look particularly cosy. . Didn't R stock have fluorescent tubes? Yes. |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Sept 18, 2016 14:22:18 GMT
Didn't R stock have fluorescent tubes? Yes. Although being picky, R Stock had tungsten bulb emergency lights. |
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Post by John Tuthill on Sept 18, 2016 16:02:32 GMT
Although being picky, R Stock had tungsten bulb emergency lights. As did the '59 & '62 stock. I can remember when they first came out they had '38 stock type shades |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2016 0:49:32 GMT
Very nostalgic! Thanks for posting. Some of the arcing on snow-covered tracks (at the end of the video) is astonishing.
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Post by snoggle on Sept 19, 2016 9:02:25 GMT
Well that was rather fun. I only have a tiny memory of the old District Line stock. We had a school trip to London and were based near Gloucester Rd stn. For some mad reason I ended up doing "naviagtion duty" for the entire party despite never having been to London before nor used the Tube  . My only tiny glimpses of the old stock was at Gloucester Rd station. Don't think I rode on it. By the time I came to London full time it had gone. The old stock had a "certain style" didn't it? I agree with others that the arcing was pretty spectacular. Never heard of a train welding itself to the rails though in my time at LU. Looking at the shots of Sarah Siddons whizzing about I get the sense that the people driving were having a wail of a time hurtling through those outer Met stations at top whack.  |
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Post by arun on Sept 19, 2016 10:34:58 GMT
59/62 stock also had those little corner glazed [emergency lighting] boxes with a candle stub in as well!
Arun
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Post by spsmiler on Sept 19, 2016 11:28:04 GMT
I can't help wondering if the film is one of those made by Online Video many years ago.
I am not certain however.
I recall trying to record the sound of these trains (the constant whine of the electrics, etc) but I only had one of those large hand held "ghetto blaster" music things (radio and cassette tape) and it let me down. Anyway, it was a hell of a brute to carry... a foot high, 15 or more inches wide and heavy! In later years I got hold of a small Sony Walkman sized cassette machine and used a plug in microphone, but whilst this worked well enough it was too late for the CO/CP and R stocks. They had already gone...
Simon
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Post by superteacher on Sept 19, 2016 11:46:37 GMT
This was the Underground that used to fascinate me. It still does now, but there was something about the system back then that will never be the same again. The Northern line shots are so nostalgic, and the mystery of never knowing what type of train may turn up: 38, 56, 59, 72 Mk 1 or 72 Mk 2.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2016 11:49:25 GMT
I can't help wondering if the film is one of those made by Online Video many years ago. I am not certain however. Right at the very end it does display 'Copyright Online Video 1989'. |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Sept 19, 2016 14:12:06 GMT
I can't help wondering if the film is one of those made by Online Video many years ago. I am not certain however. Right at the very end it does display 'Copyright Online Video 1989'. Online Video are now "J&K Video" and many titles have now been transferred to DVD. www.jandkvideo.co.uk |
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Post by stapler on Sept 19, 2016 15:25:45 GMT
A very nice compilation, if not very evenly spread over the network. How grey, unhurried and uncrowded everything was then, and how much better dressed all and sundry (except gricers). Oxford Circus with a handful of people at 16.40 on ANY day?
Couple of points
When and why was "train red" replaced by "bus red"?
Why were A stock roofs painted purple?
How much better the stock looked with London Transport in gold than the in-you-face unlettered roundel (same with the buses...).
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Post by superteacher on Sept 19, 2016 15:56:50 GMT
Bus red began to appear in the mid 70's. Never liked the CO / CP and 1938 stock with bus red and white roundels.
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Post by John Tuthill on Sept 19, 2016 19:38:29 GMT
Bus red began to appear in the mid 70's. Never liked the CO / CP and 1938 stock with bus red and white roundels. Check out 'The 1938 Stock' by Piers Connor, there is a photo of two 38s side by side showing both colour schemes |
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Post by superteacher on Sept 19, 2016 19:54:52 GMT
Bus red began to appear in the mid 70's. Never liked the CO / CP and 1938 stock with bus red and white roundels. Check out 'The 1938 Stock' by Piers Connor, there is a photo of two 38s side by side showing both colour schemes Cheers. I've got that book somewhere! |
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Post by spsmiler on Sept 19, 2016 21:56:29 GMT
Right at the very end it does display 'Copyright Online Video 1989'. Online Video are now "J&K Video" and many titles have now been transferred to DVD. www.jandkvideo.co.ukOh I did not know that. I thought that Wilf Watters (the main guy behind Online Video) sold his business to The Signal Box. I recall a time when Wilf sold some of John's films under his Online Video brand name, although eventually John started selling his films himself. Wilf was going to do the same for me, especially my super 8 films, but I did not shoot enough footage for this to have been viable. Instead he added my footage to his films. Wilf was kind enough however to allow me to sell my 1995 advocacy film under his brand name. This film promoted electric street transports as the solution for air pollution and better, integrated public transports as the cure for traffic congestion and it showed over a dozen different transport technologies and footage from something like 14 countries. Its many years since I was in contact with Wilf Watters. Recently his former American agent asked me if I knew of his whereabouts, as he has some royalty funds that he would like to send to him. Simon ps: I've just looked through my videotape collection and noticed that a film called "London Underground Review" Volume 1 was actually filmed by John Laker. This *might* be the film that is now on YouTube. |
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Post by spsmiler on Sept 19, 2016 22:04:48 GMT
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Post by spsmiler on Sept 19, 2016 22:07:49 GMT
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Post by Dstock7080 on Sept 20, 2016 5:47:24 GMT
I hated working these grey cars as a Guard! They seemed to make you feel sick all day! ( '62/'67/'72mkI/A Stock style moquette too) |
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Post by John Tuthill on Sept 20, 2016 11:15:10 GMT
Check out 'The 1938 Stock' by Piers Connor, there is a photo of two 38s side by side showing both colour schemes Cheers. I've got that book somewhere! Page 98  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2016 21:57:10 GMT
I can't help wondering if the film is one of those made by Online Video many years ago. I am not certain however. I recall trying to record the sound of these trains (the constant whine of the electrics, etc) but I only had one of those large hand held "ghetto blaster" music things (radio and cassette tape) and it let me down. Anyway, it was a hell of a brute to carry... a foot high, 15 or more inches wide and heavy! In later years I got hold of a small Sony Walkman sized cassette machine and used a plug in microphone, but whilst this worked well enough it was too late for the CO/CP and R stocks. They had already gone... Simon I'm glad you mentioned the constant whine. My grandparent's house backed onto Barking sidings. I'd stand at the bottom of the garden and watch trains going by. The sound of several stabled CO/CP and R Stock and their undulating whine was memorable, as was the occasional thunking sound from a compressor. Those trains had a distinctive metal smell too, I assume that was the brakes. I miss the grime and clatter of 1970s London Underground, it all went a bit shiny in the 1980s. |
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It seems fine to me, but if you're in doubt, it's always better to ask a member of forum staff first and we'd be happy to help you, rather than risk doing the damage and then having to try and fix it 
. My only tiny glimpses of the old stock was at Gloucester Rd station. Don't think I rode on it. By the time I came to London full time it had gone. The old stock had a "certain style" didn't it?
