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Post by phoenixcronin on Mar 28, 2017 18:24:38 GMT
Does anyone know why 115 has a different front livery compared to all the others? The area above the destination is red, rather than grey, and the grey area around the windscreen does not extend as far up as the others. Just curious! See below:  115 is on the left |
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Post by t697 on Mar 28, 2017 18:54:27 GMT
Perhaps 115 was the first production refurb? Who has records back to then in the 90s? Or a later paint repair?
Also although both seem to have the newish LED dot matrix destination displays in the picture, COCKFOSTERS is all in upper case but Uxbridge isn't. Is that normal? And what's the symbol after COCKFOSTERS?
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Post by phoenixcronin on Mar 28, 2017 19:05:12 GMT
Also although both seem to have the newish LED dot matrix destination displays in the picture, COCKFOSTERS is all in upper case but Uxbridge isn't. Is that normal? And what's the symbol after COCKFOSTERS? That's because this picture is about a year old, when there were some mixed trains with units with old and new displays. If the front unit was old and the rear was new the rear would display DESTINATION \U |
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Post by t697 on Mar 28, 2017 19:13:47 GMT
No doubt for a good reason that escapes me!
Anyway sorry to distract from the paint livery query.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Mar 28, 2017 19:50:07 GMT
Perhaps 115 was the first production refurb? That was 190, wasn't it? |
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Post by t697 on Mar 28, 2017 20:11:31 GMT
Perhaps 115 was the first production refurb? That was 190, wasn't it? The other end would have been an odd numbered unit though or a double ender. I've no idea which one though. |
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Post by North End on Mar 28, 2017 20:12:00 GMT
Does anyone know why 115 has a different front livery compared to all the others? The area above the destination is red, rather than grey, and the grey area around the windscreen does not extend as far up as the others. Just curious! See below: 115 is on the left It was the cab which hit a tree near Osterley in, I think, 2000. The cab was severely damaged and spent a few months under repair in Acton Works. The different paint scheme dates from then, as to why is anyone's guess. Could perhaps be a mistake? A search on google for "Piccadilly Line tree Osterley 2000" turns up a photo of the outcome of the incident. |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Mar 28, 2017 21:04:38 GMT
The other end would have been an odd numbered unit though or a double ender. I've no idea which one though. It was 123. Modified to work with 190 but not fully refurbished until the pilot had been assessed. |
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Post by Chris M on Mar 29, 2017 8:28:04 GMT
It was the cab which hit a tree near Osterley in, I think, 2000. The cab was severely damaged and spent a few months under repair in Acton Works. The different paint scheme dates from then, as to why is anyone's guess. Could perhaps be a mistake? A search on google for "Piccadilly Line tree Osterley 2000" turns up a photo of the outcome of the incident. The image can be found at c8.alamy.com/comp/G567T9/accidents-and-disasters-osterley-underground-train-2000-G567T9.jpg (it's copyrighted so I I'm not going to display it inline). A report in the Independent about the storms that battered pretty much everywhere south of Manchester that day reports that the operator suffered leg and back injuries and had to be cut from the cab. |
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Post by barrybahamas on Mar 30, 2017 2:07:11 GMT
I see in that alamy photo the short circuiting device (mentioned in a recent video post in the Signalling and Track section) is well in evidence.- that's the metal rod across the live rails.
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Post by crusty54 on Mar 30, 2017 12:21:09 GMT
I see in that alamy photo the short circuiting device (mentioned in a recent video post in the Signalling and Track section) is well in evidence.- that's the metal rod across the live rails. well insulated metal rod it should be said |
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Post by hobbayne on Mar 30, 2017 21:30:17 GMT
I was involved in that incident. I was the spare driver who removed the SCD (pictured) and wrong roaded it back to NFDT via Boston Manor.
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Post by fish7373 on Mar 31, 2017 23:54:23 GMT
I have some photo`s of it in northfields depot, i was on shift as DDM when went to acton works test crew drove it with a double end and went as a six train one Sunday morning with crashed cab at the back of the six train. PS Acton works painted it with the wrong paint colours that`s why its different to the rest of the fleet.
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Post by North End on Apr 1, 2017 0:11:11 GMT
I have some photo`s of it in northfields depot, i was on shift as DDM when went to acton works test crew drove it with a double end and went as a six train one Sunday morning with crashed cab at the back of the six train. PS Acton works painted it with the wrong paint colours that`s why its different to the rest of the fleet. Yes I remember completely by chance seeing it reverse in the platform at Acton Town before disappearing into Acton Works. By today's neurotic standards it's surprising from an image viewpoint that this was done very much in traffic hours and thus in full public view. I seem to remember the train was being driven from the rear for the short westbound move at Acton Town, with a member of staff standing by the missing M door on what was a rather cold morning! |
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Post by fish7373 on Apr 1, 2017 0:42:27 GMT
Does anyone know why 115 has a different front livery compared to all the others? The area above the destination is red, rather than grey, and the grey area around the windscreen does not extend as far up as the others. Just curious! See below: 115 is on the left PS Acton works painted it with the wrong paint colours that`s why its different to the rest of the fleet. |
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