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Post by Chris M on Apr 24, 2017 21:29:22 GMT
It could be a hard limit in the software. Embedded systems are generally expected to do the same task again and again for the entire working life of the system with as close to 100% reliability as possible. As a consequence of this, reliability is prioritised very significantly higher, and flexibility very significantly lower, than a general purpose computer.
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Post by t697 on Apr 25, 2017 17:28:24 GMT
It would be technically easy to change some or all of the WB H&C trips in the S stock CIS to start from Upminster rather than Barking, well within the memory and equipment capacity. There is no instruction to deliver any of this at the moment. Trains starting from Barking etc would just pick up the same 'trip' so there's no need for extras. The post that mentioned lack of 'joinedupness' has a point! You'd still have an issue with H&C trains that go on to stable at Upminster though. The relevant LU marketing related department doesn't like trains going away from central London to claim to be Circles or H&C except when on bits of line coloured yellow or pink on the public Tube Map. I understood too that Operators don't like driving a train that is claiming to provide a service for another line? Perhaps that sort of barrier is not actually real?
Regarding now redundant 'trips' such as the now unusable Hornchurch reversers etc. etc., they will be removed at a suitable update.
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Post by piccboy on Apr 25, 2017 19:31:23 GMT
It would be technically easy to change some or all of the WB H&C trips in the S stock CIS to start from Upminster rather than Barking, well within the memory and equipment capacity. There is no instruction to deliver any of this at the moment. Trains starting from Barking etc would just pick up the same 'trip' so there's no need for extras. The post that mentioned lack of 'joinedupness' has a point! You'd still have an issue with H&C trains that go on to stable at Upminster though. The relevant LU marketing related department doesn't like trains going away from central London to claim to be Circles or H&C except when on bits of line coloured yellow or pink on the public Tube Map. I understood too that Operators don't like driving a train that is claiming to provide a service for another line? Perhaps that sort of barrier is not actually real? Regarding now redundant 'trips' such as the now unusable Hornchurch reversers etc. etc., they will be removed at a suitable update. There are a number of anomalies when it comes to S Stock destination codes including a code that takes you from Edgware Road to Barking via Victoria, train describes itself as a District line train, and the opposite a train from Barking to Edgware Road via Victoria is described as a Circle Line train. On weekend Engineering works, when the Hammmersmith and City line is part suspended from Liverpool St to Barking, and for them to terminate at Aldgate, the only code for an Aldgate terminator is a Circle line one. Others that would need to be added would be for Circle and H&C trains to be able to terminate at Paddington (Suburban) and remove Park Royal, all ready for the new signalling system.
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Post by MoreToJack on Apr 25, 2017 19:37:12 GMT
remove Park Royal, all ready for the new signalling system. "This is a Circle, District and Piccadilly line train via Paddington, Aldgate, Earl's Court and Acton Town." I think you mean Royal Oak. 😋
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Post by piccboy on Apr 25, 2017 20:02:56 GMT
remove Park Royal, all ready for the new signalling system. "This is a Circle, District and Piccadilly line train via Paddington, Aldgate, Earl's Court and Acton Town." I think you mean Royal Oak. 😋 Yep that's it Can't even begin to tell you how long it took me, when I was on stations, to remember that Southgate is actually North London, and Northfields is West.
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Post by t697 on Apr 25, 2017 21:02:04 GMT
There are a number of anomalies when it comes to S Stock destination codes including a code that takes you from Edgware Road to Barking via Victoria, train describes itself as a District line train, and the opposite a train from Barking to Edgware Road via Victoria is described as a Circle Line train. On weekend Engineering works, when the Hammmersmith and City line is part suspended from Liverpool St to Barking, and for them to terminate at Aldgate, the only code for an Aldgate terminator is a Circle line one. Others that would need to be added would be for Circle and H&C trains to be able to terminate at Paddington (Suburban) and remove Park Royal, all ready for the new signalling system. Those EDR / BKG trips were specially crafted to keep all the LUL Stakeholders happy(ish) and off each others' metaphorical throats! There is correctly, no H&C trip to Aldgate. Not pink on the Tube Map of course. The extra trips like to Paddington (Suburban) and others for the new signalling system are worked out and will be added.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 22:10:31 GMT
Others that would need to be added would be for Circle and H&C trains to be able to terminate at Paddington (Suburban) and remove Park Royal, all ready for the new signalling system. I thought the new crossover at Paddington would allow trains to terminate at R oyal Oak and head back east?
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Post by t697 on Apr 26, 2017 4:50:09 GMT
I thought the new crossover at Paddington would allow trains to terminate at R oyal Oak and head back east? It will. Apparently trains will be able to reverse East to West in Paddington 16. And West to East from Royal Oak WB or from a limit of shunt between Paddington and Royal Oak. For this latter, the passenger trip would finish at Paddington.
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