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Post by up1989 on Jun 13, 2017 14:28:36 GMT
Hello all,
I was talking to a central line driver the other day and they said that all moves into sidings are done in coded manual why is this? Is it an issue with the ATO?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 15:00:11 GMT
ATO has not been installed into the sidings, the data isn't there for the train to run to, the train wouldn't know where the block marker boards and signals were. Woodford 21 road is the exception however, this is to clear the westbound platform of the Hainault - Woodford train.
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Post by superteacher on Jun 13, 2017 19:45:39 GMT
Can also go into Debden and Newbury Park loops in ATO.
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Post by up1989 on Jun 13, 2017 20:41:48 GMT
ATO has not been installed into the sidings, the data isn't there for the train to run to, the train wouldn't know where the block marker boards and signals were. Woodford 21 road is the exception however, this is to clear the westbound platform of the Hainault - Woodford train. Thanks! I'm assuming even tho theres no ATO, there are still codes? And ATP is still working? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 21:26:54 GMT
ATO has not been installed into the sidings, the data isn't there for the train to run to, the train wouldn't know where the block marker boards and signals were. Woodford 21 road is the exception however, this is to clear the westbound platform of the Hainault - Woodford train. Thanks! I'm assuming even tho theres no ATO, there are still codes? And ATP is still working? Absolutely  Can't be in Coded Manual without codes  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 22:56:57 GMT
Can also go into Debden and Newbury Park loops in ATO. That I didn't know but then again none of my duties are booked for those moves. It must be to do with being able to go "through" the siding in passenger service if needed. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 22:58:05 GMT
ATO has not been installed into the sidings, the data isn't there for the train to run to, the train wouldn't know where the block marker boards and signals were. Woodford 21 road is the exception however, this is to clear the westbound platform of the Hainault - Woodford train. You have to come out of it in Coded, though, don't you? |
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Post by bananaman on Jun 14, 2017 4:40:43 GMT
ATO has not been installed into the sidings, the data isn't there for the train to run to, the train wouldn't know where the block marker boards and signals were. Woodford 21 road is the exception however, this is to clear the westbound platform of the Hainault - Woodford train. You have to come out of it in Coded, though, don't you? If reversing back east, then yes. But it is possible to continue westbound to South Woodford in ATO (and in passenger service). |
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Post by up1989 on Jun 14, 2017 12:15:22 GMT
Thanks! I'm assuming even tho theres no ATO, there are still codes? And ATP is still working? Absolutely Can't be in Coded Manual without codes True true  On a side note if a driver was to select Restricted manual (without authority), would it bring all the trains in the area come to a screeching halt, Like its supposed to do on the seltrac signalled lines? |
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Post by aslefshrugged on Jun 14, 2017 12:19:14 GMT
Absolutely Can't be in Coded Manual without codes True true On a side note if a driver was to select Restricted manual (without authority), would it bring all the trains in the area come to a screeching halt, Like its supposed to do on the seltrac signalled lines? No, all the other trains would carry on until they reached a block marker with a zero code or a signal at danger. I'm not sure how a train in Restricted Manual entering a section with a train already in it would effect the other train |
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Post by North End on Jun 14, 2017 16:24:01 GMT
Absolutely Can't be in Coded Manual without codes True true On a side note if a driver was to select Restricted manual (without authority), would it bring all the trains in the area come to a screeching halt, Like its supposed to do on the seltrac signalled lines? No, although if the RM train occupied track circuits comprising part of another route then it would put signals back to danger, potentially causing trains to lose code. On the Seltrac lines the moment the train is put into RM the VCC will generate an auto MRR round the train, which will stop any other train if their own route encroaches into the MRR. This is why it is necessary to contact the signalman before carrying out a brake test, as the brake test requires the train to be in an RM mode. |
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Post by hobbayne on Jun 14, 2017 17:23:04 GMT
Can also go into Debden and Newbury Park loops in ATO. That I didn't know but then again none of my duties are booked for those moves. It must be to do with being able to go "through" the siding in passenger service if needed. It is possible to enter NEP or DEB sidings in ATO. But the train will stop short of the mark (where you would normally stop if you were in CM). When you change ends you would be unable to see the outlet shunt. |
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Post by drainrat on Jun 16, 2017 15:26:59 GMT
You have to come out of it in Coded, though, don't you? If reversing back east, then yes. But it is possible to continue westbound to South Woodford in ATO (and in passenger service). And if going into bay road? |
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Post by drainrat on Jun 16, 2017 15:29:15 GMT
That I didn't know but then again none of my duties are booked for those moves. It must be to do with being able to go "through" the siding in passenger service if needed. It is possible to enter NEP or DEB sidings in ATO. But the train will stop short of the mark (where you would normally stop if you were in CM). When you change ends you would be unable to see the outlet shunt. Only at NEP, takes you in fully at DEB |
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Post by drainrat on Jun 16, 2017 15:40:03 GMT
ATO has not been installed into the sidings, the data isn't there for the train to run to, the train wouldn't know where the block marker boards and signals were. Woodford 21 road is the exception however, this is to clear the westbound platform of the Hainault - Woodford train. ATO was installed into 21rd to clear a train through to South Woodford when there was a shunt on the WB main, which happens a bit |
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