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Post by d7666 on Apr 10, 2018 15:07:06 GMT
ps the other side of the MPU from the upthread images has been graffitied
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Post by d7666 on Apr 11, 2018 11:22:20 GMT
Re-reading upthread, why was it necessary to consider A and D ends?
I know what A and D ends are and why they exist on tube stock in its normal everyday service state.
But why would that apply to engineers vehicles designed as traction?
Surely irrelevant to coupling to intermediate TCC vehicles or other such vehicles.
And MPU likely to get turned on some jobs anyway, so need to be universal?
Battery locos and Schomas don't have A and D ends do they?
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Post by norbitonflyer on Apr 11, 2018 12:26:56 GMT
Re-reading upthread, why was it necessary to consider A and D ends? Presumably because they were converted from "handed" vehicles, and making them ambidextrous would be expensive? There are very few opportunities for LU trains to be turned round, and even fewer occasions when a specialist unit like this would need to couple to anything else anyway.
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Post by countryman on Apr 11, 2018 14:55:04 GMT
Presumably the inner ends of the cars are different so you need to couple the inner end of an A car to the inner end of a D car.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2018 17:58:02 GMT
Re-reading upthread, why was it necessary to consider A and D ends? I know what A and D ends are and why they exist on tube stock in its normal everyday service state. But why would that apply to engineers vehicles designed as traction? Surely irrelevant to coupling to intermediate TCC vehicles or other such vehicles. And MPU likely to get turned on some jobs anyway, so need to be universal? Battery locos and Schomas don't have A and D ends do they? -- Nick Battery locos do have ends. The train line and main line are actually on different sides depending what cab you are in, so there is an extension pipe you can you if the loco is the wrong way.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2018 17:59:44 GMT
suitable engineers job including TRV, possibly from a pool of more MPU (all of which refers to intentions before the current situation of will they won't they have a job). -- Nick TRV is actually one thing the MPU can't haul. TRV is fitted with buckeye couplings for mainline use.
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Post by d7666 on Apr 12, 2018 10:25:21 GMT
thanks x 2
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Post by londoner on Jul 16, 2018 14:22:22 GMT
Another two cars were out a few days ago:
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jul 16, 2018 14:34:28 GMT
Another two cars were out a few days ago: 1972 mkI 3107+3007 1967 Stock
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2018 15:12:37 GMT
Another two cars were out a few days ago: That’s been there about 3 months now
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2018 15:15:54 GMT
Another two cars were out a few days ago: That’s been there about 3 months now I thought that the two easternmost DMs were added recently
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2018 15:44:31 GMT
Yes, the complete MPU is sat in the acton works shunting neck now, but the two, two car units, are uncoupled.
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Post by Antje on Sept 4, 2018 18:10:56 GMT
They were still there as of 2 September, when I was returning from Southall.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2018 18:34:17 GMT
They were still there as of 2 September, when I was returning from Southall. They will now more than likely be moved back down into acton works end of this month when D78 1 goes out.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2019 20:40:18 GMT
Sorry for ressurecting an old thread but I was wondering today if there have been any developments as to what’s to happen to the 4 DMs. I noticed there were some signs that said they were outside of the possession of (I assume) the depot today and the units are also looking increasingly shabby. I just hate to see them in such a sorry state 😢
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Post by Dstock7080 on Mar 13, 2019 6:53:21 GMT
the 1967/1972 Stock combination on Acton Town 25 Road have finally gone, 3022-3122 almost a year to the day (14 March 2018) and 3007-3107 8 months after being put there. Anyone know where to ? (into Acton Works presumably)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 7:50:48 GMT
Don’t know what the number is but there is a 67 DM in the ERU at Acton which they use for training
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Post by Dstock7080 on Mar 13, 2019 8:39:27 GMT
Don’t know what the number is but there is a 67 DM in the ERU at Acton which they use for training ERU DM 3061 is outside and 3161 in the shed and have been for some years.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 16:42:47 GMT
the 1967/1972 Stock combination on Acton Town 25 Road have finally gone, 3022-3122 almost a year to the day (14 March 2018) and 3007-3107 8 months after being put there. Anyone know where to ? (into Acton Works presumably) Gone into acton works for parts to be removed, and then to scrap yard.
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Post by metman on Mar 13, 2019 23:08:54 GMT
That’s a shame they would be useful cab spares for the 72 stock on the Bakerloo as demonstrated with the ex Hainault unit.
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Post by sem34090 on Mar 13, 2019 23:41:42 GMT
I did wonder what these were doing at Acton Town when I was out with some mates chasing the '38TS railtour the other week - Apologies for being uninitiated or simply ignorant, but what does 'AIT' stand for?
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Post by fish7373 on Mar 13, 2019 23:47:21 GMT
I did wonder what these were doing at Acton Town when I was out with some mates chasing the '38TS railtour the other week - Apologies for being uninitiated or simply ignorant, but what does 'AIT' stand for? Hi AIT Stands for Asset inspection train /
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2019 17:09:53 GMT
That’s a shame they would be useful cab spares for the 72 stock on the Bakerloo as demonstrated with the ex Hainault unit. Do you mean the recent 'cut and shut' on car 3338? The donor car was a 67TS, out of the ERU yard in Acton.
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Post by metman on Mar 14, 2019 18:47:51 GMT
I thought it was from the 3 car siliver 1972 unit which was at Hainault or was that the previous cut and shut?
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Post by br7mt on Mar 14, 2019 21:05:33 GMT
That was to fix an outer DM car that collided with buffers in one of the sheds at Stonebridge Park Depot. Last year a DM 'D' car from a 4-car unit collided with buffers on one of the short sidings, it is this one being repaired with the ERU 67TS DM car cab from the outside training area.
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Post by metman on Mar 15, 2019 11:58:00 GMT
Right not going mad then! So the Bakerloo has had two depot collisions in the last few years. With spare cabs about it is now easier to cut and shut especially if there is underframe strengthening work taking place anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2019 13:45:47 GMT
With spare cabs about it is now easier to cut and shut especially if there is underframe strengthening work taking place anyway. Thanks. You would think this is the logical way to do the work, but that is far from what went on. On the more recent cab repair, the car had to be rebuilt back to how it was before the accident, so it could be signed off by the engineers to the known standards, then the structure strengthening works could take place, to the next set of relevant standards. Totally backwards to me, but I understand why it was done like this.
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Post by fish7373 on Mar 15, 2019 22:56:41 GMT
With spare cabs about it is now easier to cut and shut especially if there is underframe strengthening work taking place anyway. Thanks. You would think this is the logical way to do the work, but that is far from what went on. On the more recent cab repair, the car had to be rebuilt back to how it was before the accident, so it could be signed off by the engineers to the known standards, then the structure strengthening works could take place, to the next set of relevant standards. Totally backwards to me, but I understand why it was done like this. It has been done on the piccadilly line U170 Has The front of U204 on it i welded it on to say this one we did in house not TMU.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 18:36:10 GMT
You would think this is the logical way to do the work, but that is far from what went on. On the more recent cab repair, the car had to be rebuilt back to how it was before the accident, so it could be signed off by the engineers to the known standards, then the structure strengthening works could take place, to the next set of relevant standards. Totally backwards to me, but I understand why it was done like this. It has been done on the piccadilly line U170 Has The front of U204 on it i welded it on to say this one we did in house not TMU. Maybe I should reword slightly. The cab had its structure replaced and welded in. Once that was signed off, part of the structure was cut off again to allow the structural strengthening work to be carried out (part of the 72TS life extension work, and separate to the cab repair). Basically killing two birds with one stone.
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Post by fish7373 on Mar 19, 2019 16:52:00 GMT
Just wondered if any one noticed that the two units 72 and 67 have been moved from Acton Town in to Acton Works For Scrapping
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