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Post by greggygreggygreg on Nov 4, 2019 4:27:59 GMT
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Post by gantshill on Nov 4, 2019 7:22:54 GMT
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rincew1nd
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Post by rincew1nd on Nov 4, 2019 7:37:55 GMT
The map on the wall behind shows Pimlico and Brixton. Plus that's a 67ts deffo Victoria Line.
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Post by stapler on Nov 4, 2019 7:49:22 GMT
Of course it's the Vic line. I wonder what the computing power of the Datasaab computer a few frames down was
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Post by class411 on Nov 4, 2019 9:08:35 GMT
Here on the BBC website today.
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Post by bruce on Nov 4, 2019 9:30:31 GMT
They got the caption for the first image wrong. It should read 'An Automatic Train Operator at Oxford Circus Victoria Line Southbound'.
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Post by aslefshrugged on Nov 4, 2019 10:55:15 GMT
It's been corrected
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Post by grahamhewett on Nov 5, 2019 22:43:47 GMT
Operator with pipe firmly clenched in teeth. When did that cease?
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Post by stapler on Nov 5, 2019 23:04:25 GMT
Operator with pipe firmly clenched in teeth. When did that cease? Either when his teeth fell out or he got lung disease, I fear... |
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Post by stapler on Nov 6, 2019 8:25:57 GMT
I think the smoking ban on trains [not stations] started 9-7-84, but did that apply to staff? Presumably a motorman could get away with it in his (/her?) cab, but there was certainly one recidivist guard on the Central Line who smoked in the open stretches at least, keeping the guard's door open to disperse the evidence.
I used to avoid smoking cars unless I had to travel in one. The state of the car interior roof panels gave away what happened to the lungs of those who smoked/lived with smokers; they were off white in the non-smoking cars and light umber in the smokers...
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Post by John Tuthill on Nov 6, 2019 8:44:32 GMT
I think the smoking ban on trains [not stations] started 9-7-84, but did that apply to staff? Presumably a motorman could get away with it in his (/her?) cab, but there was certainly one recidivist guard on the Central Line who smoked in the open stretches at least, keeping the guard's door open to disperse the evidence. I used to avoid smoking cars unless I had to travel in one. The state of the car interior roof panels gave away what happened to the lungs of those who smoked/lived with smokers; they were off white in the non-smoking cars and light umber in the smokers... I stand corrected, but wasn't it after the Kings X fire? |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Nov 6, 2019 8:58:39 GMT
I think the smoking ban on trains [not stations] started 9-7-84, I stand corrected, but wasn't it after the Kings X fire? The 1984 ban was in response to the Goodge Street fire in 1981, but failed to prevent the Oxford Circus fire a few months after the ban was introduced. The Kings Cross fire in 1987 led to the ban on smoking in stations. |
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Post by rheostar on Nov 6, 2019 9:03:00 GMT
I used to avoid smoking cars unless I had to travel in one. The state of the car interior roof panels gave away what happened to the lungs of those who smoked/lived with smokers; they were off white in the non-smoking cars and light umber in the smokers... When changing ends I used to hold my breath going through the smoking cars. As you say, the roof panels were a dirty yellow colour. The wooden floors were covered with burn scars, cigarette butts and empty packets. The smoking ban was one of the best things for the Underground. |
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Post by brooklynbound on Nov 6, 2019 9:51:17 GMT
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Post by whistlekiller2000 on Nov 6, 2019 10:02:57 GMT
I used to avoid smoking cars unless I had to travel in one. The state of the car interior roof panels gave away what happened to the lungs of those who smoked/lived with smokers; they were off white in the non-smoking cars and light umber in the smokers... When changing ends I used to hold my breath going through the smoking cars. As you say, the roof panels were a dirty yellow colour. The wooden floors were covered with burn scars, cigarette butts and empty packets. The smoking ban was one of the best things for the Underground. As a former on the Underground, I often found myself smoking excessively between North Acton and Woodford as the warm rising air at the end of my cigarette or cigar used to clear the accumulated smog from my eyes. I wasn't the only one to do this so it often led to almost choking conditions, particularly underground.  I gave up smoking in 2010 but, without making me want to start again, will often stand next to somebody who has a cigarette or cigar on the go as I like the smell. These days its always outside and not quite as overpowering to what we used to inflict upon ourselves on the Central Line. |
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Post by John Tuthill on Nov 6, 2019 10:18:00 GMT
I stand corrected, but wasn't it after the Kings X fire? The 1984 ban was in response to the Goodge Street fire in 1981, but failed to prevent the Oxford Circus fire a few months after the ban was introduced. The Kings Cross fire in 1987 led to the ban on smoking in stations. Thank you for that. I'd forgotten about the other two you mentioned. |
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Post by countryman on Nov 6, 2019 13:31:27 GMT
I think the smoking ban on trains [not stations] started 9-7-84, but did that apply to staff? Presumably a motorman could get away with it in his (/her?) cab, but there was certainly one recidivist guard on the Central Line who smoked in the open stretches at least, keeping the guard's door open to disperse the evidence. I used to avoid smoking cars unless I had to travel in one. The state of the car interior roof panels gave away what happened to the lungs of those who smoked/lived with smokers; they were off white in the non-smoking cars and light umber in the smokers... I thought that they were painted those colours. I seem to remember newly overhauled units having white ceilings in DMs and yellow in trailers and NDMs. You could always tell newly overhauled units as the roofs were a much lighter colour. |
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Post by rheostar on Nov 10, 2019 10:10:04 GMT
I thought that they were painted those colours. I seem to remember newly overhauled units having white ceilings in DMs and yellow in trailers and NDMs. You could always tell newly overhauled units as the roofs were a much lighter colour. That's because the panels were so stained the cleaners couldn't get the yellow out of them. |
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Post by roythebus on Nov 11, 2019 12:39:52 GMT
I thought that they were painted those colours. I seem to remember newly overhauled units having white ceilings in DMs and yellow in trailers and NDMs. You could always tell newly overhauled units as the roofs were a much lighter colour. That's because the panels were so stained the cleaners couldn't get the yellow out of them. Which is also why the ceilings of LT buses used to be painted "Chiswick Cream", to disguise the nicotine stains. |
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I gave up smoking in 2010 but, without making me want to start again, will often stand next to somebody who has a cigarette or cigar on the go as I like the smell. These days its always outside and not quite as overpowering to what we used to inflict upon ourselves on the Central Line. 
