How long?

Anyone know the SHORTEST platforms on the tube headwall to headwall? Both SSL and tube. I have had a scout round but can't find any info. My own guess is Gloucester Road SSL and somewhere on the Northern line tube.

[trainopd78]

Q8 said:

Anyone know the SHORTEST platforms on the tube headwall to headwall? Both SSL and tube. I have had a scout round but can't find any info. My own guess is Gloucester Road SSL and somewhere on the Northern line tube.

I would say Bayswater on SSL as they can only just acommodate a C stock.

Waterloo and City platforms have to be contenders on tube lines. Proper tube i.e. LER, Charing Cross n/b was always short.

[adw]

Surely on SSL the shortest would be on the East London line, e.g. Wapping or Rotherhithe.

It's a long-shot, but what about P5 at Acton Town?

In my post I should have been more specific. I meant platforms on the SSL that are in regular use and discounting short lines like ELL and Olympia.

I.E District, H&C and Met. If the suggestion that Baywater is the shortest (which I beleive correct) and Mr Citysigs proposal that all the new SSL stock be of 6 car length then a lot of the expense of lengthening platforms in the past was wasted..

This only strengthens my view that all routes that operate "C" stock should be made into a separate line with the following services.

Wimbledon/Aldgate (via KX)
Hammersmith/Aldgate
Circle (reduced frequency =15 mins)

Then extend the Uxbridge service to Barking The Watford service to Plaistow and the Amersham service to Whitechapel.

Q8 said:

I.E District, H&C and Met. If the suggestion that Baywater is the shortest (which I beleive correct) and Mr Citysigs proposal that all the new SSL stock be of 6 car length then a lot of the expense of lengthening platforms in the past was wasted..

Regardless of Bayswater, many other platforms on SSL only just fit C-stock - even though originally they may have been long enough for 8 cars of A-stock.

Great Portland Street, Euston Square and Barbican are just a few of the platforms that are long enough for 7 cars.

Edgware Road was a tight fit for 8 cars, but since resignalling, 6 is the maximum. Baker Street platforms 5 & 6 are only just big enough for 6 cars.

King's Cross, Farringdon, Moorgate and Liverpool Street are the only "top side of circle" platforms that would be "wasted" by only using 6-car trains. Hardly a case for ordering 8 car trains.

[TheOneKEA]

Q8 said:

Then extend the Uxbridge service to Barking The Watford service to Plaistow and the Amersham service to Whitechapel.

Would sir also ensure that an adequate supply of bismuth, antacid and aspirin would be made available for sir's colleagues, the signallers and WTT planners, to ensure that sir's journey 'on the front' would remain trouble-free?

I figure the shortest platforms must be on the East London Line

Great Portland Street, Euston Square and Barbican are just a few of the platforms that are long enough for 7 cars.

Edgware Road was a tight fit for 8 cars, but since resignalling, 6 is the maximum. Baker Street platforms 5 & 6 are only just big enough for 6 cars.

King's Cross, Farringdon, Moorgate and Liverpool Street are the only "top side of circle" platforms that would be "wasted" by only using 6-car trains. Hardly a case for ordering 8 car trains.
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Would sir also ensure that an adequate supply of bismuth, antacid and aspirin would be made available for sir's colleagues, the signallers and WTT planners, to ensure that sir's journey 'on the front' would remain trouble-free?
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[TheOneKEA]

Q8 said:

Would Sir like to elucidate?

The Aldgate triangle is the busiest triangular flat junction in the world. citysig has already stated that its operation is so fragile that without constant supervision, the whole area would be one permanent b**ls-up - running more services through it would be very difficult.

Uxbridge-Barking via the Jack Wood line was tried before the war; the constant delays and disruptions due to the high number of services along the north Circle meant that it didn't last long and was eventually withdrawn.

What would a train do if it's too long for the platform? When it happens on the mainline, the gaurd simply only allows carriages in the station to open their doors, and passangers in rear carriages move up the train. On the underground, all doors get opened by the driver and passengers can't got between cars. And another thing, why are there door open buttons near the doors when the driver does the hard work?

Chris said:

What would a train do if it's too long for the platform?

The end doors of the rear car can be 'cut out' so that they don't open. A stocks do it on the north part of the circle somewhere and I believe there are a lot of places on the northern line as well

setttt said:

The end doors of the rear car can be 'cut out' so that they don't open. A stocks do it on the north part of the circle somewhere and I believe there are a lot of places on the northern line as well

And if your stuck in one of the rear cars?

I believe this only happens on the met as mentioned, and when it does, the driver makes an announcement at the previous stop telling customers to move to the next car if needs be(on the northern I think it's just the rear-most set of doors in most places).

If anyone knows better by all means correct me on this...