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Post by deadmans on Aug 25, 2010 13:55:11 GMT
Derailment in the north end of the depot. Been there for a while now. ERU on site.
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Post by metrider on Aug 25, 2010 17:42:10 GMT
And still there as we went past at about 17:45...With the train now split in two and partially jacked up over the point work.
So... What happened?
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Post by DWS on Aug 25, 2010 18:43:40 GMT
Car 96007 was derailed on a set of points at the north end of Neasden Depot, the ERU cut off this car from the other six cars.
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Post by deadmans on Aug 26, 2010 18:13:27 GMT
The train is still parked up, in neasden's north dock.
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Post by DWS on Aug 26, 2010 19:46:43 GMT
The train is still parked up, in neasden's north dock. Are all the 7 cars on the north dock ? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2010 20:36:11 GMT
I'm glad I saw this.....thought my eyes were playing tricks when I passed there on a Chiltern train at roughly 10:35. Saw one car detached from the others..........at least the thread explains all, which is one accolade on how informative the forum is  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2010 20:44:59 GMT
Just noticed the 96 stock fleet number.....007? Must be Mr. Bond trying to do something amazing using a tube train...........
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2010 20:58:33 GMT
Just noticed the 96 stock fleet number.....007? Must be Mr. Bond trying to do something amazing using a tube train........... Yes, he had to get down to Vauxhall Cross ;D |
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Post by deadmans on Aug 27, 2010 17:42:39 GMT
The train is still parked up, in neasden's north dock. Are all the 7 cars on the north dock ? Yes. But 007 has been cut free form the others.. |
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Post by DWS on Aug 27, 2010 22:07:40 GMT
Are all the 7 cars on the north dock ? Yes. But 007 has been cut free form the others.. The ERU crew do love to use the gas axe ;D |
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Post by singaporesam on Aug 28, 2010 6:27:04 GMT
I'm surprised . Normally depot derailments have enough space and access not to need such drastic action. Undoing the coupler and jumpers then pulling/ pushing apart may be.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2010 9:36:43 GMT
Just noticed the 96 stock fleet number.....007? Must be Mr. Bond trying to do something amazing using a tube train........... Yes, he had to get down to Vauxhall Cross ;D Shaken but not stirred then!  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2010 18:57:09 GMT
To continue with the bad bond jokes:
Someone must have had a Golden Eye spot this!
The first thought of the driver was what the living daylights was that!
The first report from the investigation team stated that the driver wasn't qualified to drive he only had a Licence to Kill!
I'm sure there are more out there!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2010 19:51:25 GMT
so was that a driver error which caused the derailment or was it a non-driver error?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2010 21:37:33 GMT
I would think it's pretty hard for driver error to put a train to the deck other than gunning it through a tight curve...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2010 21:59:02 GMT
To continue with the bad bond jokes: Someone must have had a Golden Eye spot this! The first thought of the driver was what the living daylights was that! The first report from the investigation team stated that the driver wasn't qualified to drive he only had a Licence to Kill! I'm sure there are more out there! He he he ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by londonstuff on Aug 28, 2010 22:19:57 GMT
I would think it's pretty hard for driver error to put a train to the deck other than gunning it through a tight curve... There was a picture on here a couple of years ago of a derailed, SPADded Met train, I think at Rickmansworth. It wasn't far off going sideways, or over a viaduct or something, if I remember correctly. Can't find the thread now though  |
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Post by Chris M on Aug 28, 2010 23:00:14 GMT
I would think it's pretty hard for driver error to put a train to the deck other than gunning it through a tight curve... No idea if it is relevant to this incident, but driver error can lead to derailment at trap points and buffer stop collisions. Not entirely driver error, and definitely not related to this incident, but I recall also an RAIB report into a derailment, I think in the north west somewhere, where the preceding train had reported a significant bump in the track. The following train was told to proceed at caution and examine the track, but actually travelled at near line speed. The track had severely buckled (I think due to heat) and a derailment occurred. |
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Post by metman on Aug 28, 2010 23:07:36 GMT
londonstuff, I think it was near Watford South Junc!
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Post by jazza on Aug 29, 2010 0:32:05 GMT
I would think it's pretty hard for driver error to put a train to the deck other than gunning it through a tight curve... No idea if it is relevant to this incident, but driver error can lead to derailment at trap points and buffer stop collisions. Not entirely driver error, and definitely not related to this incident, but I recall also an RAIB report into a derailment, I think in the north west somewhere, where the preceding train had reported a significant bump in the track. The following train was told to proceed at caution and examine the track, but actually travelled at near line speed. The track had severely buckled (I think due to heat) and a derailment occurred. Off topic I know sorry but for those interested that was at Cummersdale in Cumbria, details available here.... www.raib.gov.uk/publications/investigation_reports/reports_2010/report062010.cfm |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2010 3:36:01 GMT
I would think it's pretty hard for driver error to put a train to the deck other than gunning it through a tight curve... There was a picture on here a couple of years ago of a derailed, SPADded Met train, I think at Rickmansworth. It wasn't far off going sideways, or over a viaduct or something, if I remember correctly. Can't find the thread now though Rickmansworth sidings. A manager decided to reverse a train back in after an inciden. Without checking the points. |
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Post by deadmans on Aug 29, 2010 13:04:22 GMT
There was a picture on here a couple of years ago of a derailed, SPADded Met train, I think at Rickmansworth. It wasn't far off going sideways, or over a viaduct or something, if I remember correctly. Can't find the thread now though Rickmansworth sidings. A manager decided to reverse a train back in after an inciden. Without checking the points. Correct. 2002 or 2003? The trucks were in a bad state, bent, and twisted side frames. |
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Post by metman on Aug 29, 2010 16:42:41 GMT
Which unit was it? Is it ok now?
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Post by deadmans on Aug 31, 2010 16:10:27 GMT
Which unit was it? Is it ok now? Not sure, i know the trucks were scrapped. |
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Post by metman on Aug 31, 2010 17:57:21 GMT
The train must be fine, as no A stock were withdrawn around that time....
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Post by mildlyinteresting on Dec 21, 2010 4:14:36 GMT
I'm surprised . Normally depot derailments have enough space and access not to need such drastic action. Undoing the coupler and jumpers then pulling/ pushing apart may be. Not sure you could do that on a semi-permanent coupler though could you? Jubilee Stock is made up of a four car unit and a three car unit, so this would only work in the middle where the auto couplers are. |
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