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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2010 23:42:14 GMT
I've just re-uploaded this. Was taken when the new stock was being tested. It sounds like an angry monster
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Post by angelislington on Sept 8, 2010 9:17:21 GMT
Rumbly, clanky, creaky, that moquette and the wooden floors! That's a better trip down memory lane than all the love-struck nonsense about A-stocks in the Met board! <runs away, very very quickly> Nice vid, thanks for sharing.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2010 9:27:16 GMT
One of the best videos I have seen in a long time......made me feel really sad though, I miss those days and know we'll never return to them. The 59s are my favourite stock of all time, shall never forget them. Thanks ever so much for posting on YouTube and indeed here on the forum!
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Post by Oracle on Sept 8, 2010 9:32:44 GMT
I travelled on the 1959 every weekday for years but I always preferred the 1938 Stock on the Picc for its 'club' atmosphere inside and I suppose also the 1956 Stock for the extra wood in the cabins compared to the 1959 and 1962 Stock.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2010 9:51:26 GMT
Ahh, what memories. I can only agree with angelislington. One memorable incident was way back in 1997, when during a heavy downpour we left East Finchley, rather slowly towards Highgate, when I spotted water dripping through a light fitting... I sort of moved away rather quietly. :0 Good to the end they were, and I was able to salvage a few things from one DM car.
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Post by Phil on Sept 8, 2010 10:17:23 GMT
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we'll need to move this video to 'historical' (where it should be) in a few days, but it's well worth watching so it can stay here FTTB.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2010 12:18:15 GMT
Rumbly, clanky, creaky, that moquette and the wooden floors! That's a better trip down memory lane than all the love-struck nonsense about A-stocks in the Met board! <runs away, very very quickly> Nice vid, thanks for sharing. LOL! - when I had the original posted on youtube there were loads of 'those were the days/they were the best trains ever' comments. I suppose to be fair, they weren't receiving any futher TLC due to the impending introduction of the new stock. What makes me nostaligic is that it was filmed on a Sunday before the current Sunday trading laws - i.e. before shopping, eating and drinking became the major leisure activity, hence why the train is so empty.
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Post by metman on Sept 8, 2010 20:10:02 GMT
Nothing wrong with the A stock! I used to love the 59s too. They were great and I probably spent the most time on them as a kid!
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Post by ruislip on Sept 8, 2010 23:50:58 GMT
The only wish I had for the 59s is that they would have run all the way to Uxbridge outside the peaks. I also noticed the blue-green seat moquette in one of the cars while watching the vid.
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Post by underground2010 on Oct 15, 2010 15:52:03 GMT
Really good video. You can tell the trains were starting to show their age. I never got to ride on one of these trains, but I would of liked too.
I have the DVD of Video 125's Northern line, on the 1995 Stock as it was being introduced to service. You can see the odd 1959 Stock in service, but not many.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2010 21:06:59 GMT
I'm maybe being a touch poncy here but in no way do I associate the 59s or 62s with The Northern Line. They were Piccadilly and Central for most of their working lives and were just cascaded to others afterwards. Northen and Bakerloo - 38s all the way. That's how I will always remember them. Discuss.
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Post by slugabed on Oct 15, 2010 22:30:01 GMT
To me,Central Line=1962 Stock Northern Line=A mix of 1938 and 1959 Bakerloo=1938 and 1972 District=CO/CP and R Met=A Stock,natch. BUT:Picc=1973 Stock as it wasn't a line I used much until the late 70s. I think impressions are fixed at an early age.... As a result of my age and where I grew up,I always associate the Underground with red and "silver" stocks running together. Except the shiny-new Victoria Line,of course!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2010 22:40:53 GMT
I'm maybe being a touch poncy here but in no way do I associate the 59s or 62s with The Northern Line. They were Piccadilly and Central for most of their working lives and were just cascaded to others afterwards. Northen and Bakerloo - 38s all the way. That's how I will always remember them. Discuss. This is how I would associate the different types of stock on each line during the 1980's as a kid. Bakerloo: 72 MKII Stock with those Red Doors. How little did we know that in 20 odd years contrasting doors would be standard practice! Funny enough I never remember seeing 38 stock on the Bakerloo. Central: 62 stock. Circle: C Stock. District: C & D Stock. Hammersmith & City: The line was part of the Met at the time. C Stock of course! Jubilee: 83 stock and the prototype 86 stock. Never travelled on that train sadly. Met: Don't recall travelling on it as a kid. Didn't know what A stock was! Northern: 59 stock and 72 MKI stock. Preferred the 72's over the 59's. Piccadilly: 73 stock. Remember the yellow interiors? Victoria: 67 stock. East London Line: Again like the met never travelled on it as a kid. Irish Underground.
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Post by auxsetreq on Oct 25, 2010 15:25:29 GMT
I'm maybe being a touch poncy here but in no way do I associate the 59s or 62s with The Northern Line. They were Piccadilly and Central for most of their working lives and were just cascaded to others afterwards. Northen and Bakerloo - 38s all the way. That's how I will always remember them. Discuss. The 59s went first to the Central, then the Picc didn't they? And then moved onto the Picc as the 62's arrived. As I recall the differences between the two were slight. MGs on the 59, MAs on the 62, large duplex on the 59, small duplex and desk on the 62, other than that identical, though there must be some other differences, like the Central having an eight car config with some 59 NDMs and trailers as against the seven car all 59 set up elsewhere. Did the 59 have an equalising piston on the Westinghouse brake rather than the unreliable *popper* valve as found on the 62? When the Central binned the 62's the "best" of of them went to the Northern. The guys on the Northern said something along the lines of "What the hell is this load of rubbish" It would of seemed that the 59s were in a better condition than the 62s. Why was that I wonder? Perhaps all that tunnel work protected them from the elements somewhat, who knows? Great video BTW, it's the sounds, just love the RPA and door noises..............Still can't say I miss them though, ghastly old things to work on.............
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Post by Oracle on Oct 25, 2010 16:40:16 GMT
One unit of 1962 Stock was built for the Aldwych shuttle. It occasionally ventured out on to the main line in service coupled to a 59 Stock unit.
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Post by ruislip on Oct 25, 2010 22:26:29 GMT
I'm maybe being a touch poncy here but in no way do I associate the 59s or 62s with The Northern Line. They were Piccadilly and Central for most of their working lives and were just cascaded to others afterwards. Northen and Bakerloo - 38s all the way. That's how I will always remember them. Discuss. The 59s went first to the Central, then the Picc didn't they? And then moved onto the Picc as the 62's arrived. As I recall the differences between the two were slight. MGs on the 59, MAs on the 62, large duplex on the 59, small duplex and desk on the 62, other than that identical, though there must be some other differences, like the Central having an eight car config with some 59 NDMs and trailers as against the seven car all 59 set up elsewhere. Did the 59 have an equalising piston on the Westinghouse brake rather than the unreliable *popper* valve as found on the 62? When the Central binned the 62's the "best" of of them went to the Northern. The guys on the Northern said something along the lines of "What the hell is this load of rubbish" It would of seemed that the 59s were in a better condition than the 62s. Why was that I wonder? Perhaps all that tunnel work protected them from the elements somewhat, who knows? Great video BTW, it's the sounds, just love the RPA and door noises..............Still can't say I miss them though, ghastly old things to work on............. The 59s began service on the Piccadilly. Then after some reliabilty issues with older Standard Stock on the Central surfaced, the 59s that would have begun on the Piccy were earmarked for the Central. Also, with no large-scale production of the 1960 stock that was going to take over the Central, a decision was made to create the 62s for the Central. In time, when the number of 62s on the Central increased, the 59s they were using went back to the Piccy.
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Post by superteacher on Oct 31, 2010 21:27:01 GMT
The 59 stock spent most of their life on the Northern - that's where I will always remember them being. Looking at the video, you almost think they're still running. To me, seeing the 59's on the Edgware branch is a normal vision! When I lived near to Old Street, many a happy day out on the Tube began on a 59 stock.
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Post by tomek on Nov 5, 2010 19:36:31 GMT
Even if I like the new 1995 stock, it will never replace the 1959TS for me
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2010 6:12:35 GMT
Even if I like the new 1995 stock, it will never replace the 1959TS for me Well, we all have attachments...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2010 7:17:54 GMT
I remember the 59s very well and driving them up and down the Northern line in the early 80s. We had (i think) 2 or 3 59/62 stock combinations which were not too diver friendly. Due to the slight mismatch of air pressures on the triple valves when doing a westinghouse brake application from the 59, the 62 would beiefly go into emergency causing you to come up in a heap halfway down the platform. Very annoying but otherwise a dream to drive.
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Post by metman on Nov 8, 2010 23:31:26 GMT
Did you ever drive a 56ts? what were they like?
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Post by tubeprune on Nov 9, 2010 9:27:44 GMT
Did you ever drive a 56ts? what were they like? I drove all these (A's, 56/59/62s, & 38s). The best was the A Stock, except that its brakes were never really top class and it responded badly on poor track. 62s were a close second but they were much the same as 59s. The only real difference to drive was the flat control desk, which gave you somewhere to put your tea. 56s were just the same as 59s except the coupling was different. They had Ward couplers at the outer ends when they were first on the Picc. 38s were not brilliant compared with the silver stocks; the ride tended to be like a ship in a gentle swell compared with the rough 59/62 ride. That was the difference between steel and rubber. The Westinghouse was dreadful. Standard Stock - noisy and draughty but usually good brakes. Q Stock - much better than Standards but brakes a bit variable. CO/CP - boringly average but a very uncomfortable controller. Nice on O Stock because the Guard kept the rear cab warm for you when you changed ends. R Stock - slow and poor brakes.
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