Moorgate & Barbican unused platforms

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Are there any ideas/plans out there for uses for the un-used Barbican and Moorgate NR platforms?
It seems a bit of a waste to leave them overgrown forever, could they not, for example, serve as extra Metropolitan line platforms and bays to improve that service?
It would be interesting to see the SSR four-tracked from Baker Street (or perhaps Edgware Road) to Moorgate to allow parallel lines for the Met but I don't see any way this could happen without some serious tunneling work and engineering, if at all.

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Nov 6, 2010 22:02:50 GMT @lj2 said:

Are there any ideas/plans out there for uses for the un-used Barbican and Moorgate NR platforms?
It seems a bit of a waste to leave them overgrown forever, could they not, for example, serve as extra Metropolitan line platforms and bays to improve that service?
It would be interesting to see the SSR four-tracked from Baker Street (or perhaps Edgware Road) to Moorgate to allow parallel lines for the Met but I don't see any way this could happen without some serious tunneling work and engineering, if at all.

As you say, it would be interesting but ultimately incredibly expensive as the tunnels are only just subsurface, and follow the roads above, so, the disruption caused would be beyond belief.

Unless of course you tunnelled underneath the existing lines, in which case the existing Barbican and Moorgate facilities wouldn't be used anyway.

The extra roads at Moorgate could be used for extra terminating trains with the current layout but it would require quite a bit of flat junction crossing which in turn would probably cause disruption of the existing service.

[citysig]

I believe myself or someone else has answered this somewhere (I'll leave that to the thread crunchers). The disused lines will, at some point in the future, be brought back into use (though not passenger use).

There are still firm plans to use them, but of course like so much in the current climate, they are subject to funding.

[Ben]

Pity it can't be for pax use, if even to provide passing loops at Barbican for flexibility. Hows the building work progressing at Farringdon though?

[trc666]

If it can't be used for passengers, I reckon it would come in useful as a test track like the eastbound local at South Ealing, and as the tunnels are mainline height pretty much any stock could use it, deep level or SSL. Though a connection would have to be put in around Farringdon or Barbican.

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Nov 8, 2010 15:17:40 GMT trc666 said:

If it can't be used for passengers, I reckon it would come in useful as a test track like the eastbound local at South Ealing, and as the tunnels are mainline height pretty much any stock could use it, deep level or SSL. Though a connection would have to be put in around Farringdon or Barbican.

There was a connection once wasn't there? Didn't it get used for transferring 1938 stock to and from Drayton Park?

[Oracle]

There was a crossover at Farringdon on the CWL and then a connection (trailing) from the Down CWL to the Inner Rail. 1938 Stock was indeed sent to Acton Works [and Highgate Depot?] from the Northern City via the ramp at Drayton Park then via BR to York Road Platform, Farringdon [and Barbican to reverse?]. In the other direction trains ran via the CWL, Hotel Curve, up to Kings X Suburban and then reversed down the ramp to Drayton Park. I think the connection was also used by engineers trains but stand corrected.

[Tubeboy]

I am sure I read in Modern Railways, the old Farringdon-Moorgate branch is going to be used for storing materials/heavy plant for the Crossrail construction site at Farringdon.

[norbitonflyer]

Nov 8, 2010 22:59:37 GMT Tubeboy said:

I am sure I read in Modern Railways, the old Farringdon-Moorgate branch is going to be used for storing materials/heavy plant for the Crossrail construction site at Farringdon.

It is alraedy being used for this, but once Crossrail is finished, what are the long term plans?

[citysig]

Nov 8, 2010 23:08:05 GMT norbitonflyer said:

It is alraedy being used for this, but once Crossrail is finished, what are the long term plans?

Err...

Nov 7, 2010 22:06:59 GMT @citysig said:

I believe myself or someone else has answered this somewhere (I'll leave that to the thread crunchers). The disused lines will, at some point in the future, be brought back into use (though not passenger use).

There are still firm plans to use them, but of course like so much in the current climate, they are subject to funding.

[bassmike]

the old cwl/circle crossover at farringdon would be no use for accessing the old barbican route as it is on the wrong sideof the lenghtened platforms. Any connection would have to be around where farringdon sidings are now .