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Post by ducatisti on Nov 13, 2010 22:23:14 GMT
I was on a tube coming back from the rugby today (waves at any Australians reading ;D). After Waterloo, the driver said the train was not stopping at Embankment. As we rumbled through, there were people (pax and staff) on the platform. Can anybody explain what was going on? The train was very crowded, were they trying to run stuff through to disperse a crowd?
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Post by trc666 on Nov 13, 2010 22:32:14 GMT
Most likely yes.
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Post by 21146 on Nov 13, 2010 22:54:52 GMT
The widespread line closures meant those areas of the system that LU graciously deigned to keep open were not able to cope with both football and Lord Mayor's Show traffic. I suspect there is also an element of non-co-operation given the current station staff reductions and associated duty manager reorganisations.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2010 0:42:04 GMT
I suspect there is also an element of non-co-operation given the current station staff reductions and associated duty manager reorganisations. I wouldn't be so sure about that, the staff at Embankment were working flat out when I went through there earlier, I used to be rostered at a very busy Z1 station and in my time there have never seen volume of people such as I saw today - wasn't just there, every single station in the central area on the District line was packed to capacity. Embankment was so up against it it's untrue and I'm proud to call the staff there my colleagues
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Post by 21146 on Nov 14, 2010 2:56:39 GMT
I suspect there is also an element of non-co-operation given the current station staff reductions and associated duty manager reorganisations. I wouldn't be so sure about that, the staff at Embankment were working flat out when I went through there earlier, I used to be rostered at a very busy Z1 station and in my time there have never seen volume of people such as I saw today - wasn't just there, every single station in the central area on the District line was packed to capacity. Embankment was so up against it it's untrue and I'm proud to call the staff there my colleagues Happy to be corrected here, although it shows the system increasingly cannot cope with the level of weekend closures when no replacement buses are provided and passengers just diverted onto alternative lines (when there are any).
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Post by louvrerivoli on Nov 14, 2010 3:14:48 GMT
This was just like Bank when I went past there yesterday. At London Bridge, the driver announced that Bank is closed due to overcrowding. Upon arriving, there were still plenty of people on the platform, with quite a few expecting the train to open the doors while it just paused for 1/3 of a second and continued on.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2010 7:53:29 GMT
We sent visitors from overseas at our house off on Saturday morning to see the Lord Mayor's show, they are used to Metro systems although not London. When we caught up with them in the evening they described a complete inability to get on several sections in an orderly way, it seems the District Line at Tower Hill was the worst.
They missed quite a bit in the end. Today we are all going to Whitehall, will be interesting to see how that goes (or not). Of course, on a key day for people to go there, Westminster is inaccessible by the Jubilee Lne once again.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2010 11:22:47 GMT
Took us nearly half an hour to get across the Hungerford Bridge last night because of all the crowds waiting to get into Charing Cross and Embankment! I wish we walked across the opposite side or over Waterloo Bridge - we only wanted to walk to Covent Garden and Soho. That'll teach us!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2010 12:49:55 GMT
Happy to be corrected here, although it shows the system increasingly cannot cope with the level of weekend closures when no replacement buses are provided and passengers just diverted onto alternative lines (when there are any). Nice one you’re spot on about the network and how it copes. Yesterday was something else entirely. I’ve never seen so many stations so packed. It was shocking. The staff at Embankment were certainly knocking their pipes out, all the gates open, all the emergency exits open, staff with megaphones......I’ve never seen traffic like it, it took about 5 – 10 mins just to get off the platform.....not fun. We sent visitors from overseas at our house off on Saturday morning to see the Lord Mayor's show, they are used to Metro systems although not London. When we caught up with them in the evening they described a complete inability to get on several sections in an orderly way, it seems the District Line at Tower Hill was the worst. They missed quite a bit in the end. Today we are all going to Whitehall, will be interesting to see how that goes (or not). Of course, on a key day for people to go there, Westminster is inaccessible by the Jubilee Line once again. I know, agreed about the Jubilee line, on what is a very important date in the calendar. Also it’s a shame your friends had to see the network on a day like yesterday – last night definitely was an exception and I have never seen anything like it, or at least not that springs to mind. I’ve seen some pretty manic situations but not at every single station and passengers on a scale as last night. Took us nearly half an hour to get across the Hungerford Bridge last night because of all the crowds waiting to get into Charing Cross and Embankment! I wish we walked across the opposite side or over Waterloo Bridge - we only wanted to walk to Covent Garden and Soho. That'll teach us! Happened to me too.........thought the walk to Waterloo would be easy! I keep going on I know but I still can’t get over how busy it was yesterday, it was worse than New Years Eve!
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Post by Chris M on Nov 14, 2010 14:09:38 GMT
I have a friend who commutes into Charring Cross for four shifts a week and she said she's never seen the footbridges there so busy in 9½ years.
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Post by londonstuff on Nov 14, 2010 17:17:35 GMT
Couldn't agree more with 21146, Diana, The Major, et al. Yesterday was absolutely horrific - the worst I've ever seen it. For those who didn't read the thread I wrote yesterday, it's here
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2010 20:58:44 GMT
Saturday was bad with no Vic and no Circle / Met etc - crowding on the Picc and Central was awfull - worse than rush hour with redirected pax trying to recorrect journeys. Well out of order with all the pre Xmas etc travel , and worse than Network Rail blocks.
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Post by ajamieson on Nov 15, 2010 22:21:40 GMT
Happy to be corrected here, although it shows the system increasingly cannot cope with the level of weekend closures when no replacement buses are provided and passengers just diverted onto alternative lines (when there are any). Agree completely. Disgraceful nonsense on Saturday. System in total meltdown because of poor planning, staff struggling to cope and not a manager in sight. While it is true many frontline staff were working hard to deal with the situation at many stations, I share your impression that a collective point was being made about the consequences of poor planning and service reductions.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2010 3:45:56 GMT
Happy to be corrected here, although it shows the system increasingly cannot cope with the level of weekend closures when no replacement buses are provided and passengers just diverted onto alternative lines (when there are any). Agree completely. Disgraceful nonsense on Saturday. System in total meltdown because of poor planning, staff struggling to cope and not a manager in sight. While it is true many frontline staff were working hard to deal with the situation at many stations, I share your impression that a collective point was being made about the consequences of poor planning and service reductions. +1, it's horrid. These planners should be sacked.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2010 6:04:06 GMT
Happy to be corrected here, although it shows the system increasingly cannot cope with the level of weekend closures when no replacement buses are provided and passengers just diverted onto alternative lines (when there are any). Agree completely. Disgraceful nonsense on Saturday. System in total meltdown because of poor planning, staff struggling to cope and not a manager in sight. While it is true many frontline staff were working hard to deal with the situation at many stations, I share your impression that a collective point was being made about the consequences of poor planning and service reductions. Maybe a strike by station staff on these weekends would show these people that sit around Internet shopping at 55 Broadway what it's like. But it seems that they presently do know wrong with often being rewarded with 'Thanks to You' awards just for doing the basics of their job!
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