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Post by jswallow on Dec 16, 2010 20:18:34 GMT
Another observation. During the early days of running when I first got a ride on an S Stock, they were carrying their Train numbers on the carriage side Matrix displays as part of the scrolling message. All of my above observations didnt do this and I had to get the Train number of the end. Has this been disabled to avoid confusion? Are you sure they don't just show the set number on the leading car's side display? That's what they've done on the Victoria line 2009 stock, so that the train ops can see which train is stood in the platform for relief (for example at Seven Sisters you can't see the front of the train when it's in tunnel), so a train op walking down the platform won't know which train it is.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2010 20:24:03 GMT
When I was on the first journey, every side display scrolled between: '402 Metropolitan Line' 'Wembley Park' 'Semi-fast' not sure if that's the right order or not.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2010 23:35:01 GMT
When I was on the first journey, every side display scrolled between: '402 Metropolitan Line' 'Wembley Park' 'Semi-fast' not sure if that's the right order or not. Planning ahead for the Chesham Shuttle bus replacement service ? Xerces Fobe
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2010 21:05:55 GMT
I saw 210005 flic.kr/p/92CYZm @ Baker Street at 16:38 with an All Stations Watford service
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2010 23:27:19 GMT
According to the sign on the wall - hasn't the train stopped short?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2010 0:04:46 GMT
no, the driver lines the board up with a reference point in his cab.
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Post by t697 on Dec 18, 2010 0:04:54 GMT
According to the sign on the wall - hasn't the train stopped short? No. The markers are placed so the ideal stop is when the T/Op lines up the centre of the mark with their sightline through the edge of the windscreen.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2010 15:30:12 GMT
I was on one from Pinner last week(Monday 13th Dec about 14.00) and the voice announcements about stations were not in sync. with the carriage displays and actual positions of the trains. eg just leaving Harrow on the Hill and the display showing next stop Northwick Park,the recorded message says''Next stop Harrow on the Hill'' .This in the same mode continued all the way to Baker St. Maybe we were going backwards in time and space and I didn't notice.
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Post by t697 on Dec 18, 2010 17:49:24 GMT
I was on one from Pinner last week(Monday 13th Dec about 14.00) and the voice announcements about stations were not in sync. with the carriage displays and actual positions of the trains. eg just leaving Harrow on the Hill and the display showing next stop Northwick Park,the recorded message says''Next stop Harrow on the Hill'' .This in the same mode continued all the way to Baker St. Maybe we were going backwards in time and space and I didn't notice. Normal space/time continuum should be restored next week. See what you think then.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2010 20:31:46 GMT
Ah thanks I'll get back in The Tardis till next week.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2010 1:39:15 GMT
I had my first experience of S Stock today (changed trains at Baker Street and got lucky) - and I loved it! Looks really nice and experience of looking through the entire train's length was surreal. It's not like I lived under a rock, I did see many walk-through trains before - but travelling on one as a part of a usual commute through the old Met tunnels was great ;D
I (respectfully) love the A Stock, but the replacement is good enough for me not to mourn the old trains (too much).
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Post by Chris M on Dec 24, 2010 15:10:45 GMT
I (respectfully) love the A Stock, but the replacement is good enough for me not to mourn the old trains (too much). The king (A stock) is dead, long live the king (S stock)?
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Post by metman on Dec 24, 2010 15:34:49 GMT
The A stock still reign! For now!
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Post by Antje on Dec 31, 2010 13:30:20 GMT
It was worth a cold afternoon wait for the S Stock, the all stations to Watford at about 1730. I filmed from Finchley Central to Wembley Park.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2010 14:37:55 GMT
Finchley Central on an S Stock? Oh deary deary me, someone's gotten confused ;D
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Post by metman on Dec 31, 2010 16:01:45 GMT
I know they are lower than the A stock but I suspect the East Finchley tunnel is a little too low ;D
Look forward to seeing the video, hopefully there are plenty of A stocks in it too!
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Post by SE13 on Dec 31, 2010 17:23:48 GMT
Finchley Central on an S Stock? Oh deary deary me, someone's gotten confused ;D Bit of a tight squeeze I presume ;D
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Post by citysig on Jan 1, 2011 13:03:25 GMT
Look forward to seeing the video, hopefully there are plenty of A stocks in it too! And if it's full of 95TS with not an A-stock in sight, then we really do have a problem ;D
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Post by jammers on Jan 2, 2011 13:19:47 GMT
Another observation. During the early days of running when I first got a ride on an S Stock, they were carrying their Train numbers on the carriage side Matrix displays as part of the scrolling message. All of my above observations didnt do this and I had to get the Train number of the end. Has this been disabled to avoid confusion? Are you sure they don't just show the set number on the leading car's side display? That's what they've done on the Victoria line 2009 stock, so that the train ops can see which train is stood in the platform for relief (for example at Seven Sisters you can't see the front of the train when it's in tunnel), so a train op walking down the platform won't know which train it is. Side displays on the Victoria line now show destination.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2011 11:58:02 GMT
S stock now in service on Uxbridge branch, saw one at Rayners Lane about an hour ago.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2011 12:02:59 GMT
S stock now in service on Uxbridge branch, saw one at Rayners Lane about an hour ago. This has been known for some time: they can run to all destinations apart from Aldgate under the new WTT, although Chesham is normally not done.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2011 14:01:23 GMT
S stock now in service on Uxbridge branch, saw one at Rayners Lane about an hour ago. This has been known for some time: they can run to all destinations apart from Aldgate under the new WTT, although Chesham is normally not done. Is there a specific reason why not? Originally I understood there was going to have to be a new sub station at the Chesham end to cope with S Stock - not seen any evidence of this being done. Another example of just getting by with the existing infrastructure? Think there are some stretches of new aluminium conductor rail on the branch - maybe this is enough??
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Post by t697 on Jan 3, 2011 16:42:31 GMT
S stock has run to Chesham in service a few times. The upgrade only required the approx 2km of low loss conductor rail.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2011 23:26:38 GMT
PRJB if you're reading this......you may never thought you'd have seen this from me.....anyway, here goes: I had my first taste of S stock from Harrow to Baker Street this evening - and was actually (and I was surprised) very impressed! The seats were nowhere near as bad as I thought (in fact my forward facing had two armrest levels for me to use!), and it felt like a solid, robust bit of kit. I liked the acceleration and the feeling coming down past Kilburn and West Hampstead was rather pleasant. Never thought I'd say it but I actually really enjoyed the ride Don't get me wrong, I love the A stock and will miss them terribly, but S is nothing like I expected it to be.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2011 1:58:33 GMT
Am i the first one ever to clear a wrong signal for an S stock? I cleared the wrong starter at Watford the other day for an S stock but the driver kindly called up and told me about it, does it only count if it's out on the road or if it's taken?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2011 4:03:21 GMT
How many S stock trains in passenger service now?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2011 8:53:54 GMT
Am i the first one ever to clear a wrong signal for an S stock? I cleared the wrong starter at Watford the other day for an S stock but the driver kindly called up and told me about it, does it only count if it's out on the road or if it's taken? Nothing to be proud of matey! ;D ;D Jimar53- I think it's still 3.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2011 10:13:10 GMT
Is one being delivered every two weeks?
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Post by citysig on Jan 4, 2011 10:14:19 GMT
Am i the first one ever to clear a wrong signal for an S stock? I cleared the wrong starter at Watford the other day for an S stock but the driver kindly called up and told me about it, does it only count if it's out on the road or if it's taken? No you're not, but you are the first one to opernly admit it on a public forum ;D There's a big difference between a wrong signal lowered and it being accepted. The latter is down to the driver, but the former is down to you. Now what was that name again for the item... ;D
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Post by citysig on Jan 4, 2011 10:17:15 GMT
This has been known for some time: they can run to all destinations apart from Aldgate under the new WTT, although Chesham is normally not done. Is there a specific reason why not? Originally I understood there was going to have to be a new sub station at the Chesham end to cope with S Stock - not seen any evidence of this being done. Another example of just getting by with the existing infrastructure? Think there are some stretches of new aluminium conductor rail on the branch - maybe this is enough?? Unfortunately we are having enough problems running the through Chesham service and new timetable with A-stock, let alone running S-stock to Chesham. Basically, until a few issues are sorted out, each weekday we are having to run with a number of "planned cancellations" to the service. The S-stocks, if available, are more or less fixed to certain trips, and cannot be mixed and matched due to the limited number of qualified train operators.
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