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Post by Admin Team on Jan 27, 2011 3:58:34 GMT
Please use this thread for your images & videos of S deliveries or S stocks in service/on test.
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Post by 21146 on Jan 27, 2011 12:15:15 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2011 19:50:01 GMT
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Post by 21146 on Jan 28, 2011 20:32:21 GMT
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Post by causton on Jan 28, 2011 21:26:12 GMT
1) What does it say on the right hand side first carriage where the roundel would be? (Seen on Julian's photo)
2) Why does it need not 1 backup train number, but 2 ones? (Or is it just a case of "better safe than sorry" in case one falls over or something)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2011 22:47:32 GMT
"Tim O'Toole CBE"
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Post by 21146 on Jan 29, 2011 0:57:14 GMT
Well I guess someone hates these naff/tiny DMI/LED type displays we're forced to put up with these days.
I can't understand how, on LU, which is obsessed with "Equality & Inclusion" (sic), they can allow destination displays on new trains that are far smaller than provided in the 1960s-1980s, let alone before that.
At least LRT, the real LRT (Lothian Regional Transport), continues with proper 3-panel bus destination blinds, motorised and with rear displays; when will TFL learn from this, instead of dumming-down yet more?
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Post by t697 on Jan 29, 2011 8:14:23 GMT
PP2 was test running with additional instrumentation to record various data for several technical / relibility growth workstreams.
In earlier months the DMI train number displays had not been commissioned hence the non electronic ones. They are still on board so we still use them as well.
No real need for two back ups though!
Regarding the DMI Destination displays, they do meet the RVAR requirements and they display route as well as destination. Then if you miss the one on the front, there's another on the side of every car.
I do agree they are not quite as clear as a good roller blind but I think the S stock DMI's are pretty good.
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Post by causton on Jan 29, 2011 12:08:41 GMT
Regarding the DMI Destination displays, they do meet the RVAR requirements and they display route as well as destination. Then if you miss the one on the front, there's another on the side of every car. Indeed, I would rather have more information shown... and if all those blinds were manual the driver would have to spend an hour changing them all over at each terminus! Although, personally, the number display at the top could have been made a little bigger... Thanks  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2011 13:47:54 GMT
A little off topic but how good would it be if LUL could arrange a photoshoot at Upminster with all 4 surface stocks side-by-side. Maybe even wheel out a Q stock driving car for completeness. There won't be many more opportunities to have all of the surface stocks built since the formation of London Transport together.
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Post by prjb on Jan 29, 2011 13:48:24 GMT
I saw the Pre-Production Train 2 on Test earlier, it went to Uxbridge and Watford What was it testing for? We were mainly carrying out Propulsion tests. In addition there was some additional testing following the Uxbridge incident. NB: Sorry, I got a bit mixed up with some OPO testing we have coming up. Hence the modified post.  |
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Post by prjb on Jan 29, 2011 13:55:16 GMT
Why does it need not 1 backup train number, but 2 ones? (Or is it just a case of "better safe than sorry" in case one falls over or something) These are a throw back to the early testing when we didn't have working DMI's. We started off with printed/laminated cards and then procured some 'C' Stock set numbers from Hammersmith Depot. So they have just been left in the cab. In the early days before the DMI software was fully validated we couldn't always guarantee it would be working and generally we would be going out to test as the published last train. In these circumstances it is very important to display the correct number as staff will be looking for the last train to pass before accessing the track. |
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Post by Ben on Jan 29, 2011 16:48:07 GMT
Just as a comment on the blinds vs DMI thing, blinds wouldn't have to be manual. As stated bus companies use motorised blinds, and NYCS has motorised blinds at the front, side and rear of some of its stocks that show the current route.
Also noone ever mentions LCD screens. Size is very important with DMIs, but resolution too is.
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Post by mileendfan on Jan 29, 2011 17:25:24 GMT
"how good would it be if LUL could arrange a photoshoot at Upminster with all 4 surface stocks side-by-side. Maybe even wheel out a Q stock driving car for completeness."
I think that is a great idea
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Post by Colin on Jan 29, 2011 18:32:10 GMT
This thread is for images and videos - discussion goes in the discussion thread created for the purpose of!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2011 4:41:34 GMT
A decent 480p video from youtube
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2011 21:25:22 GMT
I don't think this has been linked to yet:
A really good effort at explaining the introduction of the S stock and the differences from the A stock, I thought!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2011 22:29:54 GMT
I don't think this has been linked to yet: A really good effort at explaining the introduction of the S stock and the differences from the A stock, I thought! It's been posted a few times. |
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Post by astock5000 on Feb 27, 2011 0:34:15 GMT
Unit 21007 on train 441 on Friday afternoon:
Arriving at Preston Road SB:
Departing Finchley Road SB:
Passing Neasden NB:
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Post by Alight on Apr 13, 2011 17:06:03 GMT
CIS error
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Post by causton on Apr 13, 2011 19:13:30 GMT
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Post by astock5000 on Apr 13, 2011 23:27:08 GMT
Thursday 7th April:
21009 on train 451 arriving at Finchley Road NB and departing Harrow on the Hill (and 21005 passing Neasden Depot SB and 21013 waiting in the flyunder):
21013 running out of service through Harrow on the Hill P1:
21005 on train 441 arriving at Northwood Hills NB:
21005 departing Moor Park NB and 21009 arriving SB:
21009 departing Moor Park:
21009 arriving at Finchley Road SB (on the same journey as the above video - I got on an A stock that overtook it at Preston Road):
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2011 20:09:19 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2011 21:49:07 GMT
Thanks for the pic. Has the S8 ever been on T423 before? |
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Post by rincew1nd on May 2, 2011 22:55:05 GMT
A vision of the future perhaps? |
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Post by Deep Level on May 5, 2011 10:36:21 GMT
Hold on! "This is Barking", "The next station is East Ham", "This is a Circle Line Train". Is there something that they are not telling us?  |
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Post by causton on May 5, 2011 14:00:31 GMT
Hold on! "This is Barking", "The next station is East Ham", "This is a Circle Line Train". Is there something that they are not telling us? Hmm... where would that circle go to/from if it comes from Barking? Along the GOBLIN with a rebuilt Barking? (end of RIPAS territory) |
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Post by Deep Level on May 6, 2011 0:57:22 GMT
I guess it could use the H&C line and platform.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2011 15:20:38 GMT
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Post by causton on May 23, 2011 15:46:57 GMT
Nice photos love the faces of everyone staring at it - "what's that doing here?" etc  |
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