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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2005 21:52:07 GMT
Can the doors on LU stock be released from the saloon, or do the punters have to break the glass or hit the porter buttons?
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Post by solidbond on Mar 8, 2005 22:28:20 GMT
Assuming you mean the normal passenger doors, the answer is that there is NO way for passengers to open them normally. In addition the porter buttons are used to close the doors on one car, so would not assist in opening doors ;D
Not sure what glass you would want to break to open the doors - the only door with glass to protect it from opening is the J door to the cabs. Even if the passengers then got into the cab, it would be VERY difficult for them to open the saloon doors, without knowing all the actions that would be needed to do so.
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Post by Tom on Mar 9, 2005 8:09:22 GMT
If there's a butterfly cock a door (or pair?) can be released, I had to do it the other week at E&C because of train stabling and track access problems.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2005 9:57:24 GMT
Assuming you mean the normal passenger doors, the answer is that there is NO way for passengers to open them normally. In addition the porter buttons are used to close the doors on one car, so would not assist in opening doors ;D Not sure what glass you would want to break to open the doors - the only door with glass to protect it from opening is the J door to the cabs. Even if the passengers then got into the cab, it would be VERY difficult for them to open the saloon doors, without knowing all the actions that would be needed to do so. Don't count some of us out ;D ;D  Are you sure the porter buttons can't open the doors? Dave posted a few stories where some morons at BKG and EBDY hit the buttons and managed to open the doors. |
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Post by Admin Team on Mar 9, 2005 10:12:13 GMT
Are you sure the porter buttons can't open the doors? Dave posted a few stories where some morons at BKG and EBDY hit the buttons and managed to open the doors. No, Solidbond is quite correct! Porter buttoons only close the doors - they're the things located at the ends of each car. What you're thinking of are the butterfly cocks which, as Tom said above, open a single door or set of doors on each car. It's possible that in the piece to which you refer is was deliberately a bit 'vague' as to how the little sweethearts carried out their dastardly deeds. After all, we don't want to encourage such actions do we?  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2005 10:36:41 GMT
No, Solidbond is quite correct! Porter buttoons only close the doors - they're the things located at the ends of each car. What you're thinking of are the butterfly cocks which, as Tom said above, open a single door or set of doors on each car. So what are the large black buttons mounted on the inner edges of each car, above the couplings - porter buttons or butterflies? It's possible that in the piece to which you refer is was deliberately a bit 'vague' as to how the little sweethearts carried out their dastardly deeds. After all, we don't want to encourage such actions do we? Indeed. |
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Post by Admin Team on Mar 9, 2005 10:52:47 GMT
So what are the large black buttons mounted on the inner edges of each car, above the couplings - porter buttons or butterflies? They're the porter buttons. Perhaps this image will make things clearer.....  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2005 17:10:27 GMT
Ta. Now you'll have to get rid of that image sharpish or risk the yobs average person getting ahold of that knowledge |
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Post by Admin Team on Mar 9, 2005 17:13:22 GMT
LOL.
Now you know, but now I'll have to shoot you! ;D
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Post by Hi on Mar 9, 2005 19:43:16 GMT
Hello there
I had kind of worked that out, but i wasn't sure what the butterfly valves were for
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Post by inmot12 on Mar 9, 2005 19:44:58 GMT
Sorry that was me bit new to this message board lark
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Post by Admin Team on Mar 9, 2005 20:03:15 GMT
No problem at all!
Welcome to this board - you'll find plenty of help here, and useful information too I hope!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2005 0:03:09 GMT
Can the doors on LU stock be released from the saloon, or do the punters have to break the glass or hit the porter buttons? The butterfly cocks only open the doors that run off of the particualr engine it operates. Normally it is each door leaf either side of where the cock is, regardless of whether it is a train with single or double leaf doors. There is also a way of opening one door from inside the saloon, but for safety reasons i will not say how, but it works in the same way as the butterfly cock. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2005 17:53:28 GMT
Normally it is each door leaf either side of where the cock is, regardless of whether it is a train with single or double leaf doors. It's only one set of doors or door, not a door either side of the cock. |
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Post by q8 on May 11, 2005 18:40:04 GMT
Welcome to this board - you'll find plenty of help here, and useful information too I hope!
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Post by Phil on May 13, 2005 16:16:55 GMT
There is also a way of opening one door from inside the saloon, but for safety reasons i will not say how, but it works in the same way as the butterfly cock. I'd always wondered what those things were- now I know (but your secret's safe with me ) ;D |
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