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Post by version3point1 on Jul 16, 2011 18:57:52 GMT
Whilst studying for my Principles of Train Equipment module this week and asking whether we had any crib sheets to the effect of "Toprate" Percy, one of my trainers was kind enough to loan me something he thought would be of interest to myself (and somewhat beneficial towards my learning, as it has been a rather difficult week). I've scanned the guide in and thought I would share it with you all. Side 1:     Side 2:     For anybody who isn't on Flickr or a contact and would like some hi-res scans for reference, just drop us a line. Thought it looks like paper, the diagrams are printed onto a lightweight plastic, just a little thicker than normal copy paper. This pocket guide was issued to my trainer when he was a motorman on the Northern line. Does anybody know whether similar guides were issued for other stocks? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2011 19:51:11 GMT
Indeed I have come across Motorman Percy before (my favourite was his 'oh no' reaction when he had no forward movement, but he was the top rate motorman so no worries there!) and it's a wonderful old way of teaching people. It certainly worked, look at the generations of old school drivers who knew their trains inside out (but thinking about it being a guard first was probably a bonus!). Thanks for putting up 3.1, an excellent post  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2011 19:59:45 GMT
Excellent stuff. I remember Motorman Percy as if it was only yesterday. However, it was indeed years ago and there was no politically correct teaching then - trust me ;D ;D But then you never forgot it  |
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Post by 1018509 on Jul 16, 2011 21:44:02 GMT
Crumbs, haven't seen any of them since my early years at Ruislip depot. I think then you could get one from the admin office at the depot just for the asking. Wish I had got a few more.
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Post by tubeprune on Jul 17, 2011 6:18:53 GMT
Unfortunately, they didn't do any like this for other stocks. Alec Gorton was the artist. He got promoted away from training and they stopped. I think he went to the District & Picc.
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Post by auxsetreq on Jul 17, 2011 8:53:02 GMT
.......... Motorman Percy got the train moving pronto, caused little or no delays and expected a commendation, in a the very least a "thank you" - Right? Wrong! Unfortunately for Perc' Miss Tree Chopper was on board while he was busy fixing the thing and she reported to his sooooperior that he didn't make a PA announcement within thirty milliseconds of the fuse going......."PLOP" So rather than "thanks" it was an interview in the *back office* for Perc' and a skew-wiff walk thereafter.................. Control Fault Percy 1 i54.tinypic.com/2digev9.jpgControl Fault Percy 2 i54.tinypic.com/1fzb7b.jpg |
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Post by version3point1 on Jul 17, 2011 12:50:52 GMT
Unfortunately, they didn't do any like this for other stocks. Alec Gorton was the artist. He got promoted away from training and they stopped. I think he went to the District & Picc. I see that he passed away in 1969 at also designed posters for LT. Such talent. Mr. Auxsetreq – You wouldn't happen to have a copy of the Compressor Fault Percy by any chance? |
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Post by auxsetreq on Jul 17, 2011 13:20:41 GMT
Unfortunately, they didn't do any like this for other stocks. Alec Gorton was the artist. He got promoted away from training and they stopped. I think he went to the District & Picc. I see that he passed away in 1969 at also designed posters for LT. Such talent. Mr. Auxsetreq – You wouldn't happen to have a copy of the Compressor Fault Percy by any chance? Regrettably no I don't. I have all my Guards and MM courses from the mid 70's stuffed up my attic region. Having a good poke around reveals no Percy Pump defect hand-outs. I've got a mate who's 62 stock crazy. Trust me, it it had an exhaust pipe he'd...........Anyway, I'll ask him and see if he has............. |
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Post by 21146 on Jul 17, 2011 16:42:53 GMT
The posters referred to seem to be internal LT designs on what would now be called "H&S" matters. One says "Loads must be free to prevent accidents". Does anyone know what this means? I would have thought the opposite is normally the case.
Yes, In M/M Percy's day the emphasis was on incident-handling and service recovery. Now it seems more like "Sod the delay, as long as the latest consultant/customer-survey-derived excuse phrase is going out ad-infinitum".
Did you know that some T/Ops have been told that they must obey the 30-second PA rule when halted between stations, because otherwise passengers will think that bombs have gone off in London? Just why they would reach this conclusion, without any other supporting evidence, is beyond my understanding. I would have thought those with such a nervous disposition should avoid public transport altogether anyway, or indeed leaving the house.
After all I always thought drivers stopped trains between stations in tunnels just to admire the view. It never occured to me we might be "held at a red signal, and should be moving shortly".
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Post by tubeprune on Jul 18, 2011 9:02:12 GMT
I do not recall a compressor defect handout by Alec Gorton. Does anyone remember one?
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Post by mrfs42 on Jul 18, 2011 11:42:27 GMT
I do not recall a compressor defect handout by Alec Gorton. Does anyone remember one? I *might* have one lurking around somewhere.. It'll take a while to remember where and in which country it is hiding. |
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Post by Colin D on Jul 20, 2011 1:26:14 GMT
I also have the 59/62 tube stock diagram from my days working on the Central and I just found a handout titled TUBES SECTION HINTS TO DRIVERS AND GUARDS WORKING 1972 TUBE STOCK Not sure how or where I got that particular handout as I never worked that stock. We just got a new scanner and once I get the bugs ironed out I'll try  and post it. |
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