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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2006 21:05:22 GMT
I've just washed and ironed my Oyster!!!
Ooops!
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Post by Tubeboy on Aug 8, 2006 21:09:40 GMT
Just print a form from the passes/permits section of the intranet, complete and hand to your AG1.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2006 21:26:21 GMT
Is it still the case that, as I read somewhere, priv passes can be obtained by house/flatmates of single staff because PC requires/required that you have/had to acknowledge that they might be a 'partner' of the staff member? I believe so, but only for one other adult living at the same address. Similarly staff spouse pass for free travel on TfL.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2006 21:33:48 GMT
If TfL allow more that £50 (i think) to be on the card I think you can have £90 on there, but you can only add £50 at one particular time at a Passenger Operated Machine, or something like that.....
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Post by Tubeboy on Aug 8, 2006 21:36:38 GMT
Thats right. You can also have up to three travelcards on it as well.
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Post by version3point1 on Aug 8, 2006 21:38:22 GMT
Amd if your Pre Pay balance drops below a certain amount, you can configure an auto-top up option online. Groovy! (Are we selling this to anyone yet? ;D)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2006 21:39:56 GMT
Amd if your Pre Pay balance drops below a certain amount, you can configure an auto-top up option online. Groovy! For those who it applies to, you can also have Priv rate oyster cards now!
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Post by Colin on Aug 9, 2006 2:29:31 GMT
I am sure eventually, you will be able to use your oyster to pay for groceries. in hong kong there is a similar oyster system but you can use it in mcdonalds and corner shops as well as transport. Oysters have been suggested to be used for parking meters. If TfL allow more that £50 (i think) to be on the card they will have to use debit/credit card rules and banking regulations which is too much effort. Would be useful to buy a paper from a newstand in the station though. The original plan was indeed to make Oyster available for use 'elsewhere' other than just public transport - but AFAIK the plan has been dropped for the very reason that 'banking procedures' would be required. It's certainly safe to say it won't happen anytime soon.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2006 8:13:45 GMT
You mean making it like a cash card, Colin? Well, the TfL brass can take a Captain Cook (means to take a look) at Hong Kong's Octopus and (to a lesser extent) Singapore's ezlink cards.
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Post by Colin on Aug 9, 2006 8:31:04 GMT
You mean making it like a cash card, Colin? Essentially that's how it would have to be managed. I get impression that the issue is complicated by the fact that T fL being a goverment quango is a little at odds with it becoming a bank for the purposes of Oyster. Also, Oyster is not compatible with 'chip & pin' which makes it rather difficult to integrate with current 'plastic cards' at retailers tills.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2006 15:04:28 GMT
In my opinion, you're going to see alot of ideas knicked from Hong Kong's successful system
How difficult would it be to incoperate an Oyster chip into a bank card or one of the supermarkets loyality cards? I'd guess not to difficult.
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Post by compsci on Aug 9, 2006 17:33:59 GMT
There are actually contactless chips in all of the recent debit cards issued by Citibank over here, and they also offer keyrings with the same functionality.
There is curently a trial of this payment method on the Lexington Avenue line (which happens to be the one I take to work). Most stations only have one turnstile per group with a reader installed, so I suspect that the user base isn't very high. As Metrocard uses a swipe system (with my average swipes to get it to work being about two) no other turnstiles are compatible.
Every time a compatible card is scanned the usual $2 fare is charged to the card. Every sixth ride will be free in line with 20% bonus for refills of $10 or more on cash Metrocards.
One glaring error is no support for an equivalent of 1/7/30 day unlimited ride Metrocards. These end up being significantly cheaper if used enough (as you would expect), so ultimately I think that the trial will be crippled through lack of support from commuters.
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Post by Tubeboy on Aug 9, 2006 18:35:56 GMT
This thread has made me think [yes I know thats hard for me ;D] what the next generation of tickets/passes will be. Place finger on reader perhaps? Eye scanning..............The world is your oyster.........yes I know that was awful!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2006 20:20:56 GMT
How difficult would it be to incoperate an Oyster chip into a bank card or one of the supermarkets loyality cards? I'd guess not to difficult. Considering that a certain supermarket does a barcode card as the store's Club Card, I'd guess summat like this could be played about with.
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Post by gabriel on Aug 10, 2006 18:15:38 GMT
I was at Camden Town today with a friend, and he out his oyster card in the ticket slot, and the maching sucked it in ;D the SA had to come and pull it out of the machine. needless to say, it didn't work after that...
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Post by Tubeboy on Aug 10, 2006 18:27:07 GMT
I am surprised at that happening! Isnt the card slightly wider than the slot in the uts gate, I always thought it was? Camden, know it EXTREMELY WELL!!!!! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2006 18:33:47 GMT
Theres about 1mm size difference... Oyster is smaller than a paper ticket...
But oyster is thicker...
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Post by gabriel on Aug 10, 2006 18:36:01 GMT
no, it went in fine!!
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Post by Tubeboy on Aug 10, 2006 18:43:24 GMT
Hmmm, ok. Had a bloke put in his freedom pass once, but it wouldnt go in.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2006 18:43:25 GMT
Never seen an Oyster actually make it into the UTS gate, and I've seen some people really try and force the card in. 10/10 for effort
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Post by Tubeboy on Aug 10, 2006 18:45:28 GMT
Exactly my thoughts Simon!
I bet the sa was pleased, bet it b*ggered the rubber bands up? ;D
They are awkward to set back in place, give us a description of the sa Gabriel, he is probably a mate! Pm though please.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2006 18:46:41 GMT
;D I'm now very eager to try it out...
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Post by Tubeboy on Aug 10, 2006 18:55:56 GMT
There are a few sa's at Camden who would not be happy for you to do that. ;D
Really surprised at this! Thought it was impossible!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2006 18:58:09 GMT
Some gates don't like creased tickets either!!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2006 18:58:50 GMT
Really surprised at this! Thought it was impossible! No, because the machine is so strong, it grabs anything that is inserted. I dare say your tie would get eaten nicely by it if you threaded it in! ;D
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Post by Tubeboy on Aug 10, 2006 19:01:47 GMT
I think we are in the realms of fantasy now!!!! Ties going into gates? ;D
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2006 19:06:41 GMT
Do the bands inside the ticket slot move continually, or is there like an IR detector???
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2006 19:08:53 GMT
Do the bands inside the ticket slot move continually, or is there like an IR detector??? They start when something hits a sensor, which is just inside the slot, so to speak
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Post by Tubeboy on Aug 10, 2006 19:13:04 GMT
They only move when a paper ticket passes through, on its way to the escrow [holds about 20 tickets] as a new one is passed through the inlet slot, the oldest ticket in the escrow drops into the capture bin [ticket bin]. Also, when you reset the gate, all the equipment self tests itself, including the bands. Yes I havent got a life! ;D The fun I have had resetting gates, just to see the bands spinning round!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2006 21:32:00 GMT
They only move when a paper ticket passes through, on its way to the escrow [holds about 20 tickets] as a new one is passed through the inlet slot, the oldest ticket in the escrow drops into the capture bin [ticket bin]. Also, when you reset the gate, all the equipment self tests itself, including the bands. Yes I havent got a life! ;D The fun I have had resetting gates, just to see the bands spinning round! The good old 95e. If that fails, turn the damn thing off. Failing that swear alot and kick it Funny thing happened to me last night - gate related - we had no L/T CSA, and I was working 'away from home' CSA went home at 1800 and at 1810 all 4 exit gates failed all with different and unconnected codes. What's the chances of that happening? I agree - A tie getting stuck in the gates - FANTASY ;D Although a customer did get her sari wrapped around a paddle the other day
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