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Post by domh245 on Jan 7, 2013 16:36:32 GMT
Yes I too noticed use of the westinghouse coming in to wimbledon on a C stock journey from Fulham Broadway, perhaps it was the same driver? Ah the benefits of having a pressure gauge in every car on the C stock, allowing us punters to observe the driver's braking
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jan 7, 2013 17:27:54 GMT
On a train from FBY-ERD earlier, westinghouse brake application at every station, train stopped very smoothly, proper trains. The westinghouse is so much more superior to the rheo! Circle drivers seem to never use it whilst District drivers seem to use it all the time. But, i wasn't at work today!  Yes I too noticed use of the westinghouse coming in to wimbledon on a C stock journey from Fulham Broadway, perhaps it was the same driver? Ah the benefits of having a pressure gauge in every car on the C stock, allowing us punters to observe the driver's braking Remember that trailer car brake cylinder gauges will always show movement whichever brake the driver selects to use. |
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Post by domh245 on Jan 7, 2013 18:08:40 GMT
Does that go for all cars in the train?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jan 7, 2013 18:39:23 GMT
Does that go for all cars in the train? With regards C & D Stock, no. Above 22mph on motor cars with a working rheostatic brake the gauge will initially show a brake application while the rheostatic brake is tested. When this has been done, the friction brake will release, the brake gauge will reduce to 0, that car will be using rheostatic braking only. At about 6mph there is no longer momentum to provide rheostatic brakes so that the friction brake re-applies for the train to stop, the gauge will then move up to show the friction brake applied. |
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Post by domh245 on Jan 7, 2013 18:53:36 GMT
That would explain the momentary drop in the needle. On the topic of C stock braking, is it acceptable for the driver to slam on the emergency brakes / put the CBTC into "Shut Down" / Cause the loud wooshing noise of the air being released, to bring the train to the final stop. Most drivers do stop "traditionally" but there are some with more interesting braking. And I can tell you that the "interesting" style of braking isn't very comfortable for us punters!
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Post by metman on Jan 7, 2013 19:24:28 GMT
Good to hear the Westinghouse is being used while there is the chance. Soon the Westinghouse brake will cease to operate on the sub-service lines.  |
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Post by astock5000 on Jan 8, 2013 2:42:25 GMT
I didn't think 5189+5034 were coupled in July? Was it not 5063+5034 and 5118+5189? 5189 ran with 5034 until 19th July, when it was coupled to 5118. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2013 22:20:51 GMT
But, i wasn't at work today! Show off! Now try stopping on a sixpence in rheo, in light rain. Bonus points if you do it without giving the train flats... ;D Its becomming a novelty now, soon enough the Bakerloo will be the only line to have it and it never seems to get used there anyway. Will miss that smell of used brake blocks. |
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Post by metman on Jan 8, 2013 22:47:01 GMT
Agreed! Come on C stock T/ops, use it before you lose it!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2013 23:10:09 GMT
Agreed! Come on C stock T/ops, use it before you lose it! Yeah, can't say i've heard it used on the Bakerloo! The rule must surely apply to the Bakerloo to test it each trip on the station prior to terminus? |
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Post by a60 on Feb 23, 2013 22:14:40 GMT
Heard Westinghouse used at Paddington (District) on the 21st Feb. As an aside, according to a YouTube comment by someone whose name I cannot remember, 5535 has had it. Is this true or have they just made a mistake?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2013 19:34:22 GMT
Do C stock still suffer from dodgy EP braking? I was on a unit yesterday at a few stations, where the rheo brake would fade out as normal and instead of EP comming on, the driver would go in to emergency to get the train to stop.
The fleet seems to vary wildly, some of them the EP will either be weak/fail and driver will give it a blow to stop it dead or sometimes the EP will just snatch and the train will stop rather abruptly without emergency being used.
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Post by domh245 on Mar 8, 2013 16:54:52 GMT
Glad to hear use of a Westinghouse today on train 077 (leading DM 5734) @fby 15:46 @wim 16:08. hearing all the wooshes of air as we came into (IIRC) putney bridge approach signal, Southfields where things became interesting and I think I heard a quick Emergency "fart"(is there a proper term for that noise?) and Wimbledon Park, not to mention Wimbledon. It brought a little smile to my face (much to the bemusement of the other punters). Yes I too noticed use of the westinghouse coming in to wimbledon on a C stock journey from Fulham Broadway, perhaps it was the same driver? Ah the benefits of having a pressure gauge in every car on the C stock, allowing us punters to observe the driver's braking Remember that trailer car brake cylinder gauges will always show movement whichever brake the driver selects to use. And this time I'm sure of it  |
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Post by allan60 on Mar 9, 2013 10:11:50 GMT
Does anyone know when the next C stock withdrawal is?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2013 12:36:29 GMT
Does anyone know when the next C stock withdrawal is? End of this month. |
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Post by allan60 on Mar 9, 2013 20:42:21 GMT
Does anyone know when the next C stock withdrawal is? End of this month. Thanks |
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Post by 1018509 on Apr 12, 2013 13:23:13 GMT
Does anyone know when the next C stock withdrawal is? End of this month. Have any units of C gone to that great depot in the sky yet except the ones subject to the shunting mishap and/or nefarious activities? |
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Post by domh245 on Apr 12, 2013 13:34:11 GMT
I think so, wasn't there a six car train scrapped in Januray, and nothing since?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2013 14:09:09 GMT
Have any units of C gone to that great depot in the sky yet except the ones subject to the shunting mishap and/or nefarious activities? Just the one in January. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2013 8:40:57 GMT
Has been posted on a few other groups that 6 cars of C Stock are due to go for scrap at Acton Works on the 26th April.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2013 9:12:55 GMT
How many cars are still in service?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2013 10:07:43 GMT
It will be great to never C one again!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2013 10:21:17 GMT
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Post by Dstock7080 on Apr 26, 2013 11:05:44 GMT
5528+5588+5701 into Acton Works.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2013 15:22:12 GMT
I've heard that 2 units are being sent to Northwood for scrap on Monday 13th of May.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2013 8:40:45 GMT
I've heard that 2 units are being sent to Northwood for scrap on Monday 13th of May. Is this likely to be 5595 and one of 5528+5588+5701 which arrived at Acton 2 weeks ago? Also, does anyone know how quickly they're taken away at Northwood after arrival? Are they still likely to be there in the evening, or are they loaded straight onto lorries that day? |
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Post by Dstock7080 on May 10, 2013 11:55:38 GMT
I understand that 5595 cannot be driven, so requires a unit each side.
5528 should be the west/north unit as that's how the train arrived at Acton Works.
Usually the first car is taken away with an hour of arriving at Northwood.
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Post by domh245 on May 10, 2013 12:52:02 GMT
So they will be taken for scrapping at Northwood? I though it was going to be taken from Acton to the scrapyard? Also,wasn't it 5555 that can't be driven, or is there another one?
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Post by Dstock7080 on May 10, 2013 13:20:42 GMT
So they will be taken for scrapping at Northwood? I though it was going to be taken from Acton to the scrapyard? Also,wasn't it 5555 that can't be driven, or is there another one? Other Forum misinterpreted that the 26 April move was for scrap, it wasn't. 5595, which you mentioned first, has been a long term resident of Acton Works and has been stripped of many parts. |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2013 11:43:24 GMT
C stock at Rayners Lane today on the way from Acton to Northwood - photo here. It threw a curved ball and did a quick reverse at Rayners Lane instead of Ruislip as intended so I didn't get chance to check the car numbers. As an added bonus Sarah Siddons passed through some 20 minutes before heading south on the Piccadilly Line - photo here. |
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