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Post by flippyff on Aug 18, 2013 14:53:49 GMT
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Post by southfieldschris on Aug 18, 2013 14:59:06 GMT
The idea is that DLR passengers will alight at PML for the Olympic Park instead of at Stratford. |
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Post by revupminster on Aug 18, 2013 15:38:33 GMT
It will be open for forward traffic to the stadium but close for the return traffic as it is too close and would soon become overcrowded. The longish walk to Stratford or West Ham will spread the passengers out.
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Post by southfieldschris on Aug 18, 2013 15:48:57 GMT
It will be open for forward traffic to the stadium but close for the return traffic as it is too close and would soon become overcrowded. The longish walk to Stratford or West Ham will spread the passengers out. Seriously?? That has to be the most stupid idea I have come across for a long time ! |
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Post by crusty54 on Aug 18, 2013 17:26:00 GMT
It will be open for forward traffic to the stadium but close for the return traffic as it is too close and would soon become overcrowded. The longish walk to Stratford or West Ham will spread the passengers out. Seriously?? That has to be the most stupid idea I have come across for a long time ! The new Pudding Mill Lane station will be much larger than before and there will be more twin track in the area so it may be possible to cope with stadium crowds. |
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Post by southfieldschris on Aug 18, 2013 18:26:04 GMT
Seriously?? That has to be the most stupid idea I have come across for a long time ! The new Pudding Mill Lane station will be much larger than before and there will be more twin track in the area so it may be possible to cope with stadium crowds. I thought that was the whole point of spending all that money on the twin track and the new much larger PLM station. Not using the capacity for 50% of the demand would be completely barking mad quite odd. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2013 18:36:05 GMT
Will this led to a double tracking between Bow Church and Stratford all the way after the new Pudding Mill Lane is finish and open? Is there space to do so?
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Post by revupminster on Aug 18, 2013 18:57:44 GMT
The TFL circular says capacity between Stratford and Canary Wharf will expand line capacity from 5500 to 6600 journeys per hour and with funding for new train up to 10000 passenger journeys. So if 10000 passengers descend on Pudding Mill Lane they will take an hour to clear if no passengers (not likely) are on the trains arriving from Stratford or Bow Road. The Olympic Stadium was deliberately placed at the furthest point from Stratford station so that crowds could spread out. Football supporters know this well at The Emirites (Drayton Park the closest station closes for return traffic) and Wembley Park is a long walk from Wembley Park and football clubs West Ham Chelsea QPR all have restrictions on expansion due to transport problems.
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Post by southfieldschris on Aug 19, 2013 9:06:52 GMT
If the system is capable of absorbing demand at 100% efficiency then the 10,000 passengers will take an hour to clear whether they spend it strolling to Stratford or in a queue outside PML. It's a question of crowd management - Drayton Park and its surroundings were not designed to be able to take in the numbers of people the Emirates stadium disgorges. North Greenwich was designed to cope with the Dome/O2 and there's not much alternative, so there's a managed queue area for people wanting to get away by Jubilee Line.
My point is, if PML needs to be rebuilt anyhow because it has to move out of the way of Crossrail, that's fine, but there's no point in spending money in capacity at the station for people exiting for the Olympic Park if it can't then be utilised for the same people going home. And I still don't see why people couldn't be directed to use PML for Eastbound trains to Stratford, even if the Westbound ones will likely be full of people who walked to Stratford and got on there.
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Post by crusty54 on Aug 19, 2013 15:30:02 GMT
It is clear that the area around the new station will be used for housing development.
The double tracking will be phased and there is a very tight spot on the bend towards Bow.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2013 15:32:29 GMT
The former Olympic Park will be used for more than just the sporting venues. It will also contain housing and businesses. I believe the area around PML is currently being developed for offices and light industrial use so in a year or two it could have a more all week round function.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2013 16:22:47 GMT
Maybe PML should be renamed "Olympic Park". We already have "Beckton Park" and "Langdon Park", so why not? Plus we already have a station named after a venue - "Custom House for ExCel".
Knowing the level of sense applied to the protracted decision to go ahead and call "Abbey Road" "Abbey Road" - just so they could stick a funny poster up at it, they'll probably call it "Pudding Mill Lane for Queen Elizabeth Olympic Park". Arranged in a similar manner to "Cutty Sark for Maritime Greenwich for University of Greenwich".
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Post by Chris M on Aug 24, 2013 17:08:25 GMT
Maybe PML should be renamed "Olympic Park". I don't think that would be the best plan - the aim for major events in the park will be to spread the load over several stations. Calling one station "Olympic Park" will just encourage people to use it when it isn't the best station for their journey. Someone coming from Kent via HS1 for example should walk from Stratford International not get two DLR trains to Pudding Mill Lane. |
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Post by crusty54 on Aug 24, 2013 17:55:20 GMT
No need to rename the station. It reflects it's location which is going to be developed and merits the expanded station at the expense of Crossrail.
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Post by melikepie on Aug 24, 2013 18:12:29 GMT
Another reason not to rename the station is that the surrounding redeveloped area is to be named Pudding Mill
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Post by southfieldschris on Aug 26, 2013 19:37:57 GMT
The double-tracking between Pudding Mill Lane and Bow Church isn't going to affect the NR spur down up to Gas Factory Junction is it?
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Post by melikepie on Aug 27, 2013 13:59:06 GMT
No. Due to the tightness of the curve and the limited space available, that particular part of the DLR is to remain single track
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Post by melikepie on Sept 6, 2013 16:47:57 GMT
With the double tracking, will the tph increase? By how much if so?
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Post by crusty54 on Sept 7, 2013 14:09:58 GMT
With the double tracking, will the tph increase? By how much if so? Once complete the extra tracks will make it possible to run 15 trains per hour. This seems to be an increase from 12tph. |
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Post by alholmes on Mar 13, 2014 21:40:40 GMT
There's a lengthy closure of the DLR between Bow Church and Stratford in April, so it looks as though the old Pudding Mill Lane station closes at the end of traffic on Thursday 17th April, with the new station (and new double-track alignment) opening on Monday 28th April.
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Post by flippyff on Mar 14, 2014 22:11:55 GMT
Hmmm... www.dlrlondon.co.uk/Planned-Engineering-Works/"18/04/2014 - 25/04/2014 - Stratford to Bow Church (Weekday closure) DLR services will be suspended on Friday 18 April until 22:00 on Friday 25 April between Stratford and Bow Church. " "25/04/2014 - 27/04/2014 - Stratford to Poplar DLR services will be suspended from 22:00 on Saturday 25 April until Sunday 27 April between Stratford and Poplar. " "03/05/2014 - 04/05/2014 - Stratford to Poplar DLR services will be suspended on Saturday 3 and Sunday 4 May between Stratford and Poplar. This is due to improvement works." "05/05/2014 - 05/05/2014 - Stratford to Bow Church DLR services will be suspended on Monday 5 May between Stratford and Bow Church." |
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Post by alholmes on Apr 17, 2014 5:44:43 GMT
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