SSR Timetable

[towerman]

When all the S stock is in operation & the lines re-signalled,will there be a SSR timetable rather than 3 seperate ones as at present?

[sawb]

I may be thinking of a different scenario, but isn't the Met line timetable changed twice a year like National Rail, whereas those for Circle, District and Hammersmith & City are not? If that is the case, then there probably won't be one timetable for all four lines will there?

[metrailway]

There is heavy leaf fall during the autumn between Ricky and Amersham so a single year round timetable would not suit the Met.

[Harsig]

For all practical purposes the sub surface lines already have just one timetable covering the lot. It just happens to be published in three separate volumes which are clearly identified as to which part of the sub surface network they apply to. To my mind there are a number of advantages to the multi volume approach, as it keeps the size of individual publications down to a reasonable level. There aren't really that many staff who need to have the whole sub surface timetable to refer to and when special working of some part of that network is required it is not necessary to issue a timetable notice covering the whole subsurface area.
Conversely a combined timetable would be a somewhat unwieldy document to refer to.

[domh245]

I'd agree with harsig, why would the Met controller need the district timetable?
However come resignalling and having one controller for the whole network (I think that was the plan) then having an SSL wide timetable may be useful. Perhaps its even arranged so that rather than line, it is done by the line section, so one for west of earls court, one for earls court to aldgate (north circle), one for the south circle, one for west of baker street (hammersmith and met main) and one for east of aldgate, with the pages formatted so that they sync up, and the trains colour coded depending on what line they are on. Oh, and lastly, I think the whole network have 2 timetables per year. District WTT 144 was released 9th december, and 145 was released in may

[crusty54]

But they will all be controlled from one place

[domh245]

Exactly, so there may well be one line controller (god help them when the service goes down at opposite ends of the network!) - who would have a timetable for all the trains under his command. So, rather than having 3 timetables, they could have had one huge one, probably cutting out a lot of timing points if it were to go to one copy - The opportunity could then be taken to have geographical timetables (and possibly even geographical controllers if there will be more than one), hence my suggested areas, but these could be modified to have the changeover points at key points or turnback facilities, which would allow the line controllers to easily split the line up into sections

[Deleted]

Jun 13, 2014 15:22:00 GMT sawb said:

I may be thinking of a different scenario, but isn't the Met line timetable changed twice a year like National Rail, whereas those for Circle, District and Hammersmith & City are not? If that is the case, then there probably won't be one timetable for all four lines will there?

The District timetable iS changed twice a year mainly due to the interface with the National rail network on the Richmond and Wimbledon branches.

[towerman]

What I was thinking was will there be trains that start at say the east or west ends of the District & stable at H&C locations & vice versa.Also is it still the intention to do all the heavy S stock maintenance at Neasden?If so,will there be booked trains in the WTT starting on the District & stabling at Neasden or will there be empty stock moves to Neasden?

[Deleted]

Jun 20, 2014 12:57:20 GMT towerman said:

What I was thinking was will there be trains that start at say the east or west ends of the District & stable at H&C locations & vice versa.Also is it still the intention to do all the heavy S stock maintenance at Neasden?If so,will there be booked trains in the WTT starting on the District & stabling at Neasden or will there be empty stock moves to Neasden?

H&C trains daily run passenger from Barking to Baker Street then empty to Neasden to stable so extending them from Upminster when the District is fully S stock seems quite possible.

[Deleted]

Jun 20, 2014 12:57:20 GMT towerman said:

What I was thinking was will there be trains that start at say the east or west ends of the District & stable at H&C locations & vice versa.Also is it still the intention to do all the heavy S stock maintenance at Neasden?If so,will there be booked trains in the WTT starting on the District & stabling at Neasden or will there be empty stock moves to Neasden?

Ealing Common depot is having lifting roads installed, and there are various upgrades happening at upminster too, so presumably heavy maintenance will be kept on the district line.