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Post by Harsig on Apr 25, 2005 17:36:55 GMT
Mystery Locationis a sketch of the track layout of a station that has been redrawn from a supplement to the traffic circular that was published some years ago. Would anyone care to hazard a guess as to where it is? You should note that the track layout has been altered since the supplement to the traffic circular was issued
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Post by alexholt on Apr 25, 2005 18:20:59 GMT
at a guess somewhere along the former Met&GC joint?
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Post by setttt on Apr 25, 2005 18:50:09 GMT
is it Barking?
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Post by piccadillypilot on Apr 25, 2005 18:51:21 GMT
Upminster, a long time ago.
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Post by DWS on Apr 25, 2005 19:07:14 GMT
Its Barking LT&S pre 1960.
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Post by q8 on Apr 25, 2005 19:36:15 GMT
I agree with with Mr DWS. Definitely Barking pre-1960. The thicker lines are the electrified tracks for the DR.
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Post by Colin on Apr 25, 2005 20:01:55 GMT
I go with Barking also.
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Post by Harsig on Apr 25, 2005 20:03:31 GMT
Yes those of you who said Barking are correct. Those who said Upminster might be interested in seeing this UpminsterThe supplement to the traffic circular that contained the original diagrams was No 18/1936 'Instructions for working electric trains between St Mary's and Upminster and on the East London Line' |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2005 21:42:31 GMT
I didn't know that platform 6 was so recent. Interesting to see that DR trains shared a platform with the Romford shuttle and that the branch siding is now the platform 6 road.
What was shedded at Upminster before its closure and the opening of Upminster Depot?
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Post by q8 on Apr 26, 2005 4:09:39 GMT
Nothing other than District trains were stabled at Upminster IIRC. The train crew booking on point at that time was in the building on the eastern region up platform. The shed shown on the diagram was I think some sort of wagon facility but I am not 100% on that so please correct me if I am wrong. All the steam Loco's were at Plaistow/West Ham, Tilbury and somewhere at Southend. Plaistow /West Ham was quite extensive and parts were transverse to the actual railway. As you leave West Ham now there is, on the right, a large field with the Rugby Club building on it. Well that entire field was all railway works. Right adcent to the sewer pipe embankment and next to the up line was a coaling tower. If you are on an eastbound train satnding in the platform at West Ham and look to the left was where the carriage sidings were. On the Plaistow side of the sewer pipe embankement was an engine shed next to the bay road (I think it's a car dealership now) and on the UP side of the ER line there were more railway works where the flats are at present.
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Post by DWS on Apr 26, 2005 16:55:57 GMT
I have a book "The London Tilbury & Southend Railway" A History of the Company and Line Volume 2,
by Peter Kay ISN 1 899890 1 9 X £9.95
On page 78 is a photo of Upminster taken in June 1938, this shows the Steam Locomotive Shed at the back of the 'Branch' Through Platform.
It was built in 1931/2 when Upminster Station was rebuilt when the lines from Barking were quardrupled.
It housed 2 Tank Locos class 1P, it was a sub-shed of Plaistow, it had a staff of 1 steam raiser (nights), 1 cleaner (days) and 5 Drivers & 5 Firemen.
From the photo it looks like the shed stood on the site of the London Transport Booking on point.
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Post by q8 on Apr 26, 2005 17:30:20 GMT
 Thanks for the clarification Mr DWS as I said I was not sure.
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Post by DWS on Apr 26, 2005 20:43:37 GMT
Yes those of you who said Barking are correct. Those who said Upminster might be interested in seeing this www.geocities.com/idsmesig/Signals/Upminster.PDFThe supplement to the traffic circular that contained the original diagrams was No 18/1936 'Instructions for working electric trains between St Mary's and Upminster and on the East London Line' Mr Harsig, can you show us old guys some more diagrams from this Traffic Circular Supplement, please ? |
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Post by Harsig on Apr 29, 2005 15:42:22 GMT
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Post by DWS on May 1, 2005 9:47:47 GMT
Thanks Mr Harsig, nice track diagram of East Ham, but no Signals are showing on the link ? |
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Post by q8 on May 1, 2005 10:56:48 GMT
 Well I can tell you this much. If you look at the diagram you will see on either side of the car shed two dead end sidings. Those sidings were called "traffic east" and "traffic west" and as the names imply were used for trains reversing at East Ham from either direction. Trains that terminated at Barking in a westbound direction used traffic east. I am trying to find the old signal diagrams for the area but I fear they may have gone walkies during one of my house moves.
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Thanks for the clarification Mr DWS as I said I was not sure.
Well I can tell you this much. If you look at the diagram you will see on either side of the car shed two dead end sidings. Those sidings were called "traffic east" and "traffic west" and as the names imply were used for trains reversing at East Ham from either direction. Trains that terminated at Barking in a westbound direction used traffic east. I am trying to find the old signal diagrams for the area but I fear they may have gone walkies during one of my house moves.
