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Post by russe on Jun 5, 2005 15:08:55 GMT
That link didn't work for me, Q8 - something about a password being required.
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Post by setttt on Jun 5, 2005 15:46:07 GMT
If you don't mind me doing it on your behalf, Q8:  |
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Post by q8 on Jun 5, 2005 17:21:04 GMT
If you don't mind me doing it on your behalf, Q8:
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Thanks Son for helping me out there.
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Post by q8 on Jun 5, 2005 17:48:13 GMT
If you don't mind me doing it on your behalf, Q8: You could tell which type was which by the roof clerestory |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2005 20:27:54 GMT
I love that picture, it has so much atmosphere.
The car that is second from last comes, I believe, from 'M' stock. Where these only used as trailers in Q stock or were there any DMs.
What are the two 'jumpers' on the rear of the G23 DM?
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Post by q8 on Jun 5, 2005 21:48:30 GMT
 Well David I can tell you the second car may have been "K" "L" or "M" and possibly even "N" as they were all virtually identical in appearance and built 1931/1935 there were motors and trailers of all of them all but LPTB converted a lot of them to trailers. The could be indentified by the car number generally 040xx. Internally some had a partition at one end of the car which was the former first class compartment. When LPTB came into being and they had the great renumbering scheme they sort of followed on with old MDR numbers in which SSL stock motor cars were numbered in the 4xxx series and trailers 8xxx The "Standard" tube stock motors were 3xxx and trailers were 7xxx. Control trailers were number in the 5xxx series. For some reason the they also put a 0 at the begining of "Q" stock trailer cars so 8023 became 08023 and so on. The "jumpers" are , on the left train line air pipe and on the right, main line air pipe. The easiest way to tell train line from main line is that the train line was always thicker. Main line air pressure 85psi and train line 65psi.
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Post by mottza on Jun 6, 2005 9:31:08 GMT
Where was that pic taken?
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Post by DWS on Jun 6, 2005 10:05:14 GMT
Where was that pic taken? Well the train number 174, is an East London Line train, could be near Whitechapel or Surrey Docks (Surrey Quays)  |
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Post by q8 on Jun 6, 2005 15:45:49 GMT
Well the train number 174, is an East London Line train, could be near Whitechapel or Surrey Docks (Surrey Quays) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Just off the southbound ramp at Surrey Docks. You can just see the trainstop for the southbound starter. A couple of interesting points about the picture. The whitepainted square thing on the ground by the garden to the left of the train is a sump, quite a deep one too. There is (or was) a submerged pump in there to keep the water level down in the area. All the walls on the ELL used to weep to varying degrees especially at Wapping/Rotherhithe (naturally) and all the stations have pumps which used to be monitored from Canal Junction Signal cabin. Another thing comes to mind. behind the train out of sight and near the overbridge is a flat piece of ground covered in ash. During the war and after the night Surrey Docks was set on fire in the bombing (which burned for six WEEKS) a large hole was discovered where a bomb had entered. The size of the hole suggested that it was rather a large bomb too. There had been no explosion so it was assumed to be a UXB So along came the bomb squad boys from the army to dig for it. They dug down SEVENTY feet and found ....NOTHING. There was evidence that something had indeed penetrated down that far as the ground is very soft thereabouts. As they had gone down so far and the shaft was in danger of collapse it was filled in and nothing more done. After the war the army turned up again as they still had the incident as unsolved in their files. So they drilled a narrow bore hole down for 150 feet and used some sort of detector gear to locate metal objects underground. at 135 feet they detected something and knowing the water pipes/sewers are not that deep assumed it was the bomb. They judged from the echo they got that it was a landmine. As it was so far down and had not "gorn orf bang" in the interim it was decided to leave well enough alone. So that landmine is still down there to this day. (where's me tin hat?)  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2005 15:46:18 GMT
looks like either surrey docks as it was called then or parsons green- fulham broadway
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2005 15:47:23 GMT
ok beat me to it ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Well David I can tell you the second car may have been "K" "L" or "M" and possibly even "N" as they were all virtually identical in appearance and built 1931/1935 there were motors and trailers of all of them all but LPTB converted a lot of them to trailers. The could be indentified by the car number generally 040xx. Internally some had a partition at one end of the car which was the former first class compartment. 
