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Post by PiccNT on Dec 20, 2016 11:20:21 GMT
No, as we would need a cab at each end and there aren't too many double ended units to be able to do that.
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Post by roythebus on Dec 20, 2016 17:46:24 GMT
There's still a 73 stock train sitting in Neasden as of this morning, so they're not all completely fixed yet I don't think we're out of the woods yet. One of the trains I had last night had severe flats on it. The driver on the Tokyo metro train that derailed on a curve and crashed into a residential block a few years ago reported "flats on leading car"....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2016 19:18:58 GMT
Correct me if I'm wrong wasn't that on seconds from disaster on national geographic channel? If so wasn't it excess speed that caused the crash as the driver was falling behind on there tight timetable?
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Post by rheostar on Dec 20, 2016 20:31:33 GMT
Correct me if I'm wrong wasn't that on seconds from disaster on national geographic channel? If so wasn't it excess speed that caused the crash as the driver was falling behind on there tight timetable? Yeah, you're right, I watched that too. The train was running late and the driver was trying to make up time.
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Post by Chris M on Dec 20, 2016 21:07:23 GMT
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Post by rheostar on Dec 20, 2016 21:24:13 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2016 21:43:30 GMT
Double DOH
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Post by philthetube on Dec 21, 2016 6:19:37 GMT
However, being serious, flats can cause track damage and potentially cause derailments.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 7:35:03 GMT
How is the Piccadilly line now. How many trains back in service. Could there be issues in the new year?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Dec 21, 2016 8:50:49 GMT
How is the Piccadilly line now. How many trains back in service. Could there be issues in the new year? Fleet were offering 73 trains on Monday for 79 train service, so just 6 cancelled.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 17:05:40 GMT
So not too bad. That's under 10%. Today I came into acton from rayners lane and didn't encounter any issues. for anything customers have an inertia and are still using the met from Uxbridge side into London.
I hope that the issue doesnth repeat itself in jan. I spoke to a change who said wheels cannot be swapped (wheel drop) unlike other train. Also they only have 1 site to conducthe the wheel repairs. Hence the extended problength.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2016 18:08:19 GMT
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Post by zcap on Jan 4, 2017 22:04:37 GMT
Hi all, Just wondered if the 25mph TSR is still up on open sections? Thanks
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Post by PiccNT on Jan 4, 2017 23:26:07 GMT
Hi all, Just wondered if the 25mph TSR is still up on open sections? Thanks It's 35mph during the day and it reduces to 25mph from 00:00 to 08:00.
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Post by zcap on Jan 4, 2017 23:37:37 GMT
Hi all, Just wondered if the 25mph TSR is still up on open sections? Thanks It's 35mph during the day and it reduces to 25mph from 00:00 to 08:00. Cool thanks for that!
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Post by nig on Jan 5, 2017 0:14:20 GMT
Hi all, Just wondered if the 25mph TSR is still up on open sections? Thanks It's 35mph during the day and it reduces to 25mph from 00:00 to 08:00. How do you know it reduces its not on the tsr notice ?
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Post by PiccNT on Jan 5, 2017 16:18:43 GMT
We are told plus the station staff change the notice on our notice board to reflect the lower speed at 00:00.
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Post by roythebus on Jan 5, 2017 23:21:11 GMT
Ss a bit like the boil-in-the-bag drivers on the main line who have been told they can drive slower in fog. Lack of experience or training. Or bad management of a known seasonal problem. Since the birth orf railways there's been trees by the line. Every 12 months leaves fall off the trees and land on the railway. It's been happening since about 1828.
Perhaps LUL suffers from boil-in-the-bag management too? That is a relativley new phenomenon brought about by those who have little or no experience in how to run a railway, and sometimes those who may not know what a train looks like.
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Post by snoggle on Feb 1, 2017 13:30:39 GMT
A snippet from the latest TfL Commissioner's Report.
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Post by philthetube on Feb 2, 2017 2:44:49 GMT
Ss a bit like the boil-in-the-bag drivers on the main line who have been told they can drive slower in fog. Lack of experience or training. Or bad management of a known seasonal problem. Since the birth orf railways there's been trees by the line. Every 12 months leaves fall off the trees and land on the railway. It's been happening since about 1828. Perhaps LUL suffers from boil-in-the-bag management too? That is a relativley new phenomenon brought about by those who have little or no experience in how to run a railway, and sometimes those who may not know what a train looks like. It is much more like car drivers slowing down when there is ice about, you cannot see slippery rails so need to drive as if they are everywhere, if anything the mistake was in not bringing the restrictions in sooner. I cannot work out what your point is, on the one hand you say that managers should not have acted as they did but to have not introduced these limits would have ended with no serviceable trains
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Post by phoenixcronin on Feb 2, 2017 20:10:14 GMT
On a somewhat related note I've noticed that most 73 stock have been fitted with red vinyl stickers on the front end. At first I thought they have actually been washed but upon closer inspection you can see an abrupt dirty line where the vinyl sheet ends. Perhaps this was applied when they were all out of service?
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Post by rheostar on Feb 3, 2017 9:27:03 GMT
Perhaps LUL suffers from boil-in-the-bag management too? That is a relativley new phenomenon brought about by those who have little or no experience in how to run a railway, and sometimes those who may not know what a train looks like. I can assure you that those Piccadilly line 'boil in a bag' managers you refer to know exactly what a train looks like and do have some experience of running a railway.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2017 16:03:01 GMT
On a somewhat related note I've noticed that most 73 stock have been fitted with red vinyl stickers on the front end. At first I thought they have actually been washed but upon closer inspection you can see an abrupt dirty line where the vinyl sheet ends. Perhaps this was applied when they were all out of service? Maybe added to cover graffiti on the front of the train?
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Post by nig on Feb 4, 2017 18:46:36 GMT
On a somewhat related note I've noticed that most 73 stock have been fitted with red vinyl stickers on the front end. At first I thought they have actually been washed but upon closer inspection you can see an abrupt dirty line where the vinyl sheet ends. Perhaps this was applied when they were all out of service? Maybe added to cover graffiti on the front of the train? Al of the 73 stock is stuck on no paint is used even what kook like vents on the windows of the motpr cars is stuck on
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Post by fish7373 on Feb 5, 2017 18:08:39 GMT
Hi instead of painting them we covered them in M3 vinyl done at cockfoster`s depot.
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Post by londoner on Mar 6, 2017 17:36:09 GMT
Are all the trains back in service? I ask because since these problems, there often seems to be large gaps between trains, particularly those going towards Uxbridge. Prior to this, there seemed to be better regularity to the frequency.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2017 17:39:39 GMT
Any problems on the line and the Uxbridge / Rayners Lane branch is the first to suffer
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2017 22:06:25 GMT
Are all the trains back in service? I ask because since these problems, there often seems to be large gaps between trains, particularly those going towards Uxbridge. Prior to this, there seemed to be better regularity to the frequency. The service on the branch is not any worse than it was before the whole issue with wheel flats*. It might be that service control are taking the decision to sometimes not run through to Uxbridge when there has been an issue somewhere (so reversing at Rayners or South Harrow or Ruislip) more than in the past - though I have not noticed this. The branch always suffers and good service can quite often in off peak mean 20 or so minute gaps. I can't see that changing until the upgrade finally gets done. *Really hope I am not jinxing it.
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Post by londoner on Mar 7, 2017 0:00:34 GMT
Any problems on the line and the Uxbridge / Rayners Lane branch is the first to suffer No qualms from me. I have always thought the branch should be a shuttle, but thats a story for another day. My main issue is that when I go to my local station, I look at the board, and very often, since the problem with wheel flats, I won't see any Rayners Lane trains listed. At least before the wheel flats, it didn't seem so bad, it felt there was a frequency of about 8 minutes but now its often back to the old days of 15 or so minutes. Maybe I am just imagining all this!!!
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Post by PiccNT on Mar 7, 2017 11:41:10 GMT
It's not a shortage a trains, it's a shortage of staff. There seems to be a high level of sick leave on the line for whatever reason. The timetable hasn't changed so if a train is cancelled because an operator isn't available to take it, it's likely that the Rayners/Uxbridge branch will be the one to suffer more than Heathrow.
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