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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2017 18:34:39 GMT
 On the "Destination DLR" leaflet launched by TfL to commemorate three decades of the Docklands Light Railway, the network map is sporting different colours for each service/route.  |
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Post by spsmiler on Jul 28, 2017 19:33:43 GMT
Long overdue!
I note that they show that southbound trains travelling from Bank to Lewisham do not call at West India Quay and finally publicise that Beckton is not served from Stratford International.
When passing through Stratford a few day ago I made a point of looking and saw that the official 'destinations served' information for platform 17 still includes that trains from there go to both Woolwich Arsenal and Beckton.
Martin, I would appreciate being advised of where you found these leaflets. I ask because I wish I could get hold of one of them too; I've tried stations such as Bank, Stratford, Canning Town, West Ham and Canary Wharf (all major stations on the DLR network) without any joy.
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Post by londoner on Jul 28, 2017 20:04:31 GMT
The Stratford-Woolwich branch is too light and might be missed. I'd make it a shade darker and therefore also make the Tower Gateway branch a shade darker too. Otherwise I quite like it.
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Post by jacks on Jul 28, 2017 20:38:30 GMT
Martin, I would appreciate being advised of where you found these leaflets. I ask because I wish I could get hold of one of them too; I've tried stations such as Bank, Stratford, Canning Town, West Ham and Canary Wharf (all major stations on the DLR network) without any joy. Simon That major DLR station Leicester Square (  ) has a load in the leaflet rack next to the Northern line gateline as that's where I picked one up the other day. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2017 20:57:39 GMT
Long overdue! Martin, I would appreciate being advised of where you found these leaflets. I ask because I wish I could get hold of one of them too; I've tried stations such as Bank, Stratford, Canning Town, West Ham and Canary Wharf (all major stations on the DLR network) without any joy. Simon Goodge Street is a regular haunt of mine for picking up these special leaflets including "Destination DLR", like you I haven't had any luck on the network which the leaflet is promoting. The Charing X branch of the Northern line has generally been rather speedy in the past regarding special commission leaflets. I'm sure the as ever keen eyed members of this forum will post any sightings as they come. |
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Post by snoggle on Jul 29, 2017 0:06:27 GMT
the network map is sporting different colours for each individual route. Could we be seeing the London Overground maps heading in a similar direction? A tiny bit of pedantry but it doesn't look like a different for each route. It seems to be different colours for eastern / southern branches (Woolwich, Beckton and Lewisham) regardless of where the northern / western terminal is (two colours into Bank, one to Tower Gateway and one to Stratford International). |
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Post by Chris M on Jul 29, 2017 1:36:05 GMT
It should also be noted that these are the usual routes only. Almost* anything in possible during disruption, engineering works, special events or runs to depots.
*You can't run direct between Bank and Tower Gateway, between East India and Star Lane, between Royal Victoria and West Silvertown, or between All Saints and Blackwall but everything else is doable. e.g. Lewisham-Tower Gateway the other weekend, and a train claiming to be for Gallions Reach pulled in to Mudchute platform 3 out of service this morning (shortly before 9am iirc), but I didn't have time to hang around and see whether it was defective or something though.
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Post by crusty54 on Jul 29, 2017 7:01:00 GMT
It should also be noted that these are the usual routes only. Almost* anything in possible during disruption, engineering works, special events or runs to depots. *You can't run direct between Bank and Tower Gateway, between East India and Star Lane, between Royal Victoria and West Silvertown, or between All Saints and Blackwall but everything else is doable. e.g. Lewisham-Tower Gateway the other weekend, and a train claiming to be for Gallions Reach pulled in to Mudchute platform 3 out of service this morning (shortly before 9am iirc), but I didn't have time to hang around and see whether it was defective or something though. There are/were depot runs in service from Beckton to Lewisham. You may have seen the opposite. Woolwich Arsenal to Lewisham has been operated during engineering works. |
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Post by Chris M on Jul 29, 2017 10:41:34 GMT
There is at least one evening run in service from Lewisham to Gallions Reach and thence (I presume) out of service to the depot, and few years ago a I got a service direct from Cyprus to Cutty Sark (late afternoon iirc). During engineering works the other weekend there were Lewisham-Tower Gateway trains, and my first ever ride on one of the B07 trains was direct from Bank to Stratford via Poplar.
Trains are rarely scheduled into P3 at Mudchute (the bay platform) as it almost always delays a northbound service*, especially in the peaks. However when they are they can do it in service and normally have a destination of "Mudchute" (I've been on such trains). Out of service trains often display the last in service destination (I've seen numerous OOS trains heading for Beckon depot pass through Cyrpus with "Lewisham" or "Bank" on the front).
*Especially as a train from Island Gardens is held south of platform 2 at Mudchute while the train crosses over - protection against an overrun I presume, as yesterday a northbound train was stationary in platform 2 while the train to P3 crossed in front of it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2017 17:43:17 GMT
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Post by alholmes on Jul 29, 2017 18:10:13 GMT
Would be more helpful if it was made clear on the map that trains from Stratford via Bow Church only run to/from Canary Wharf for most of the time. It's only alternate trains in the morning peak, Monday to Friday, which run to/from Lewisham.
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Post by crusty54 on Jul 29, 2017 19:23:50 GMT
Would be more helpful if it was made clear on the map that trains from Stratford via Bow Church only run to/from Canary Wharf for most of the time. It's only alternate trains in the morning peak, Monday to Friday, which run to/from Lewisham. Not a thing for the diagrams to show. The platform describers do this. |
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Post by Chris M on Jul 29, 2017 20:18:04 GMT
That is the current standard of the tube map, but previous editions have shown things like direct trains between Oval and the Charing Cross branch of the Northern are peak hours only. Something similar would be entirely appropriate at Canary Wharf.
Off-topic but as one of my most frequent journeys is Mudchute to or via Stratford (and vice versa), direct trains other than in the morning peak would be rather nice.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2017 20:23:23 GMT
Off-topic but as one of my most frequent journeys is Mudchute to or via Stratford (and vice versa), direct trains other than in the morning peak would be rather nice. Agreed, It would certainly free up capacity on existing services given the somewhat substantially consistent flow of interchange traffic from the Jubilee line at Canary Wharf heading to/from Maritime Greenwich. |
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Post by theblackferret on Jul 29, 2017 21:46:12 GMT
Would be more helpful if it was made clear on the map that trains from Stratford via Bow Church only run to/from Canary Wharf for most of the time. It's only alternate trains in the morning peak, Monday to Friday, which run to/from Lewisham. Not a thing for the diagrams to show. The platform describers do this. I'd normally agree with you there, except the run on to Lewisham goes by a major tourist attraction at Cutty Sark, so that isn't a great advertisement for helping tourists get to it from Stratford. It might be a bit like a first-stop desk to them & it should maybe contain full info on that fact. |
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Post by silenthunter on Jul 29, 2017 21:55:27 GMT
Needs more distinct colours.
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Post by crusty54 on Jul 31, 2017 16:21:31 GMT
Needs more distinct colours. Or route numbers/letters |
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Post by AndrewPSSP on Aug 2, 2017 13:46:57 GMT
I think that the small leaflet holders at DLR stations should be used more often. It will make it easier for different people (who actually use the network) to find this information. At Lewisham, there are one of those 'Customer Service Information' boards with the little (what I call) "tube map racks". I have been to this station many times over the past decade and never have I seen anything in those racks.
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Post by Chris M on Aug 4, 2017 8:48:11 GMT
It should also be noted that these are the usual routes only. Almost* anything in possible during disruption, engineering works, special events or runs to depots. *You can't run direct between Bank and Tower Gateway, between East India and Star Lane, between Royal Victoria and West Silvertown, or between All Saints and Blackwall but everything else is doable. e.g. Lewisham-Tower Gateway the other weekend, and a train claiming to be for Gallions Reach pulled in to Mudchute platform 3 out of service this morning (shortly before 9am iirc), but I didn't have time to hang around and see whether it was defective or something though. There are/were depot runs in service from Beckton to Lewisham. You may have seen the opposite. Woolwich Arsenal to Lewisham has been operated during engineering works. Related to this, trains from Mudchute this morning seem to be alternating between Bank and Beckton. I've not spotted why. Unfortunately I have to get to Dalston this morning so can't take a trip to Beckton |
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Post by superteacher on Aug 4, 2017 9:37:36 GMT
There are/were depot runs in service from Beckton to Lewisham. You may have seen the opposite. Woolwich Arsenal to Lewisham has been operated during engineering works. Related to this, trains from Mudchute this morning seem to be alternating between Bank and Beckton. I've not spotted why. Unfortunately I have to get to Dalston this morning so can't take a trip to Beckton TFL site was advertising severe delays earlier. |
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Post by crusty54 on Aug 4, 2017 10:12:54 GMT
Trains were running Mudchute to Lewisham around 0730.
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Post by Chris M on Aug 4, 2017 15:28:33 GMT
Sorry, I should have been clearer. This was about 9:45am, all the trains heading south were advertised as running to Lewisham, and trains heading north were arriving from the south with passengers on board. I presume they were all starting their journey at Lewisham as there is nowhere south of Crossharbour that can be used to reverse trains south to north without delaying through trains. In the morning peak the usual pattern is trains departing Lewisham alternating between Bank and Stratford but today it was Bank and Beckton.
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Post by crusty54 on Aug 4, 2017 16:07:33 GMT
Sorry, I should have been clearer. This was about 9:45am, all the trains heading south were advertised as running to Lewisham, and trains heading north were arriving from the south with passengers on board. I presume they were all starting their journey at Lewisham as there is nowhere south of Crossharbour that can be used to reverse trains south to north without delaying through trains. In the morning peak the usual pattern is trains departing Lewisham alternating between Bank and Stratford but today it was Bank and Beckton. They can reverse at Greenwich without too many delays. |
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Post by reese on Dec 29, 2017 13:34:35 GMT
I know I'm way late to the party here, but does anyone know if the leaflets are still available at any stations? I'm heading in to London in a few days and would like to grab a few if possible.
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Post by goldenarrow on Dec 29, 2017 14:07:33 GMT
I know I'm way late to the party here, but does anyone know if the leaflets are still available at any stations? I'm heading in to London in a few days and would like to grab a few if possible. Saw them at recently at the exit only ticket hall at Tower Hill. |
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Post by reese on Dec 29, 2017 18:21:33 GMT
I know I'm way late to the party here, but does anyone know if the leaflets are still available at any stations? I'm heading in to London in a few days and would like to grab a few if possible. Saw them at recently at the exit only ticket hall at Tower Hill. Fantastic, thank you! |
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