London Overground and DLR escalators

[Chris M]

ianvisits has posted an infographic from TfL's Programmes and Investments Committee board meeting papers (link, may require a Facebook login, snoggle may know how to find a direct version). This includes many statistics about TfL's assets by mode, but what caught my eye was the number of escalators for DLR and London Overground.

DLR has 30 escalators apparently, and London Overground is ascribed 3 - but I can't work out where these are. The only escalators to London Overground platforms I can think of are at Canada Water, but I think there are more than 3 at that station?

As for the DLR, I can think of 6 at Bank that could be the DLR's, 2 at Woolwich, 2 at Limehouse, 2 at Custom House*, 2 at Stratford International, 2 at London City Airport and 6 at Canary Wharf. There are some (2? 4?) to the high level DLR platforms at Canning Town, but I'm pretty certain this is a London Underground-managed station, and while there are a some escalators at Stratford I'd be surprised if these were on the DLR's asset register. This comes to about 22 (more than I would have guessed) not 30 though.
*Pre-rebuild for Crossrail.

[Dom K]

Dec 5, 2017 21:58:20 GMT Chris M said:

ianvisits has posted an infographic from TfL's Programmes and Investments Committee board meeting papers (link, may require a Facebook login, snoggle may know how to find a direct version). This includes many statistics about TfL's assets by mode, but what caught my eye was the number of escalators for DLR and London Overground.

DLR has 30 escalators apparently, and London Overground is ascribed 3 - but I can't work out where these are. The only escalators to London Overground platforms I can think of are at Canada Water, but I think there are more than 3 at that station?

As for the DLR, I can think of 6 at Bank that could be the DLR's, 2 at Woolwich, 2 at Limehouse, 2 at Custom House*, 2 at Stratford International, 2 at London City Airport and 6 at Canary Wharf. There are some (2? 4?) to the high level DLR platforms at Canning Town, but I'm pretty certain this is a London Underground-managed station, and while there are a some escalators at Stratford I'd be surprised if these were on the DLR's asset register. This comes to about 22 (more than I would have guessed) not 30 though.
*Pre-rebuild for Crossrail.

There is an escalator at Seven Sisters for LO

[cso]

Does that help, Chris M    

[melikepie]

Does Pudding Mill Lane have Escalators? Don't forget Tower Gateway and Cutty Sark.

[melikepie]

In fact this may help. content.tfl.gov.uk/avoiding-stairs-tube-guide.pdf

[Chris M]

Pudding Mill Lane doesn't have escalators. Tower Gateway has 2, and iirc Cutty Sark has 4, which would put the total at 28.
There are 4 at Heron Quays and 4 at South Quay that I've just remembered, making the total 36 - so some of the ones I've thought of can't be the DLR's. If the ones at Canning Town are LU's that's down to 32, and if Custom House is now entirely on Crossrail's register that would make 30.

[rincew1nd]

So you've gone from not enough escalators to too many; brilliant!

[snoggle]

The paper with the infographic is this one.

tfl.gov.uk/cdn/static/cms/documents/pic-20171212-item10-public-transport-portfolio.pdf

[jacks]

Dec 5, 2017 23:22:25 GMT Chris M said:

Pudding Mill Lane doesn't have escalators. Tower Gateway has 2, and iirc Cutty Sark has 4, which would put the total at 28.
There are 4 at Heron Quays and 4 at South Quay that I've just remembered, making the total 36 - so some of the ones I've thought of can't be the DLR's. If the ones at Canning Town are LU's that's down to 32, and if Custom House is now entirely on Crossrail's register that would make 30.

Ah, but still I've seen no one mention that East India has one escalator for each platform!

[Chris M]

so we're back up to 32!

[superteacher]

Ah this is like Karma for all those quiz questions - seeing Chris M stumped!

(I only wish I knew the answer though . . .)

[moogal]

Dec 6, 2017 2:26:30 GMT Chris M said:

so we're back up to 32!

Are there actually any at Limehouse? In all the times I've used that station I've only ever seen stairs.

[Chris M]

Ah, not yet. It seems I was ahead of things. From tfl.gov.uk/modes/dlr/improving-the-dlr:

New escalators at Limehouse

We are installing escalators at the main entrance to the westbound DLR platform at Limehouse station. The new escalators, alongside the current staircase, will reduce the time it takes to interchange between the westbound DLR and c2c platforms. The escalators will also help reduce congestion at the station during peak times.

We will also be installing a new ramp. The work is due to be complete in April 2018.

Still 2 Overground escalators to find,

[hptraveller]

I think the two Overground escalators you're looking for are at Rotherhithe, unless anything's changed since it reopened in 2010.

[Chris M]

Ah yes indeed, they will indeed by the ones at Rotherhithe.

[greatkingrat]

Next question is how do they get a figure of 20 lifts for the Overground?

Imperial Wharf (2), Shepherds Bush (2), Willesden Jn (2), Kensal Rise (1), Hampstead Heath (2), Gospel Oak (2), Camden Road (2), Caledonian Road (2), Canonbury (3), Hackney Central (2). That is 20 before you even start looking at the ELL and West Anglia.

[melikepie]

Technically speaking you've already touched the ELL with Canonbury