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Post by goldenarrow on Feb 14, 2020 22:11:29 GMT
The already constrained Bakerloo line ticket hall at Paddington is for a time going to get even more restricted to enable works to enlarge the space from next week.
Changes during the works include:
Bakerloo trains non-stopping on 22 & 23 Feb
Permanent closure of the Praed Street entrance down to the Bakerloo ticket hall which I'm told dates all the way back to 1913
Restricted access via the suburban platforms entrance/exit
All this and more till Summer 2020 when the worksite boradens.
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Post by futurix on Feb 16, 2020 10:56:40 GMT
Permanent closure of the Praed Street entrance down the Bakerloo ticket hall which I'm told dates all the way back to 1915 So they are actually removing the entire original entrance?? |
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Post by goldenarrow on Feb 16, 2020 11:52:44 GMT
Permanent closure of the Praed Street entrance down the Bakerloo ticket hall which I'm told dates all the way back to 1915 So they are actually removing the entire original entrance?? They are demolishing the small oxblood red tiled cuboid structure that gives access to the Bakerloo line ticket hall from Praed Street. This is separate from the C.W Clarke designed entrance which has the same name and is Grade II listed.  Paddington Station (Bakerloo) on Praed St, W2 (2) by Peter Dean, on Flickr |
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Post by futurix on Feb 16, 2020 23:43:50 GMT
So indeed they are demolishing the original Bakerloo entrance then... pity.
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Post by rsdworker on Feb 17, 2020 2:18:43 GMT
so what will be on there aftrr demlishing? like new retial or housing?
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Post by aslefshrugged on Feb 17, 2020 3:36:47 GMT
so what will be on there aftrr demlishing? like new retial or housing? I wouldn't have thought there was enough room for retail or housing as the site is about 10ft by 30ft sandwiched between the ramp down to Paddington Mainline and London Street. |
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Post by goldenarrow on Feb 17, 2020 7:49:16 GMT
so what will be on there aftrr demlishing? like new retial or housing? This entrance will be replaced by a more accessible one under the Paddington Square development which will take the place of the old red brick Post Office building seen in the photo above. London Road and the Paddington Ramp will be merged and fully pedestrianised leaving no trace of the original entrance footprint. |
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Post by rsdworker on Feb 17, 2020 16:06:10 GMT
so what will be on there aftrr demlishing? like new retial or housing? This entrance will be replaced by a more accessible one under the Paddington Square development which will take the place of the old red brick Post Office building seen in the photo above. London Road and the Paddington Ramp will be merged and fully pedestrianised leaving no trace of the original entrance footprint. nice so new lifts to bakerloo tucket hall? but i am unsure if that is accesisble via ticket hall to bakerloo since crossrail has connectiob to bakerloo line with lifts |
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Post by goldenarrow on Feb 17, 2020 17:33:24 GMT
This entrance will be replaced by a more accessible one under the Paddington Square development which will take the place of the old red brick Post Office building seen in the photo above. London Road and the Paddington Ramp will be merged and fully pedestrianised leaving no trace of the original entrance footprint. nice so new lifts to bakerloo tucket hall? but i am unsure if that is accesisble via ticket hall to bakerloo since crossrail has connectiob to bakerloo line with lifts Memory is a bit grainy on the specifics but I can clearly remember a pair of lift shafts and new bank of escalators located behind the new gate line in the plans. With both the Praed St and Suburban platform exists gone, it should allow for the opening up of this space. UPDATE: I’ll pull up the PDF when I get back to a computer. |
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Post by rsdworker on Feb 18, 2020 10:16:01 GMT
link is not working for me - its says no document to show
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Post by whistlekiller2000 on Feb 18, 2020 13:16:27 GMT
link is not working for me - its says no document to show Yep.... goldenarrow has dropped a right clanger there. Anymore mistakes like that and he'll be asked to join the quiz team.....  |
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Post by goldenarrow on Feb 18, 2020 13:17:09 GMT
link is not working for me - its says no document to show Yep.... goldenarrow has dropped a right clanger there. Anymore mistakes like that and he'll be asked to join the quiz team..... Cheers grandad 🙄 |
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Post by whistlekiller2000 on Feb 18, 2020 13:20:34 GMT
Yep.... goldenarrow has dropped a right clanger there. Anymore mistakes like that and he'll be asked to join the quiz team..... Cheers grandad 🙄 De nada saltamontes.......  |
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Post by goldenarrow on Feb 18, 2020 13:32:22 GMT
rsdworker , I've attached a screenshot of the plans for the ticket hall. This was from a document titled 'PROPOSED B1 TICKET HALL LEVEL PLAN' from this page. Just for orientation purposes, the rectangle (lower left side) is the former Praed St subway.  Zoomed in version of the same diagram showing the area between the existing ticket hall and the new space beneath Paddington Sqaure. 
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Post by Chris M on Feb 18, 2020 14:38:13 GMT
This site plan gives the context of the development site in terms of the current buildings and roads.
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Post by aslefshrugged on Feb 18, 2020 15:10:57 GMT
They really don't want us to see those plans...
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Post by rsdworker on Feb 18, 2020 17:59:42 GMT
so why lifts lead to bakerloo ticket hall but not accessible to bakerloo line platforms unless there is other lift from ticket hall to platforms
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Post by aslefshrugged on Feb 18, 2020 18:14:04 GMT
I think I read somewhere that the Bakerloo Line platforms will have lifts from the Crossrail platforms and the Crossrail platforms will have lifts to the ticket hall.
Or maybe its the Alzheimer's...
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Post by goldenarrow on Feb 18, 2020 18:33:51 GMT
so why lifts lead to bakerloo ticket hall but not accessible to bakerloo line platforms unless there is other lift from ticket hall to platforms The 2nd photo I attached shows a new pair of lifts behind the gateline in the payed section of the enlarged ticket hall. These lift shafts do not appear in the plans for the mezzanine levels above therefore I would conclude that the only way these shafts are going is down to the Bakerloo line platforms since they are too far west to hit the Crossrail link. |
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Post by aslefshrugged on Feb 18, 2020 19:05:27 GMT
Definitely Alzheimer's..
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Post by DWS on Feb 18, 2020 20:09:13 GMT
Did Paddington Bakerloo line have lifts when the line first opened ?
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Post by goldenarrow on Feb 18, 2020 20:25:58 GMT
Did Paddington Bakerloo line have lifts when the line first opened ? Following on from the success at Earl's Court, it opened with escalators from the beginning, the first on the line to be built as such. |
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Post by crusty54 on Feb 18, 2020 20:30:53 GMT
Did Paddington Bakerloo line have lifts when the line first opened ? Following on from the success at Earl's Court, it opened with escalators from the beginning, the first on the line to be built as such. but where lifts were installed there was always flights of stairs from the lower concourse to the platforms. |
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Post by Chris M on Feb 18, 2020 20:58:47 GMT
I think I read somewhere that the Bakerloo Line platforms will have lifts from the Crossrail platforms and the Crossrail platforms will have lifts to the ticket hall. The will be a step-free link from the Bakerloo line platforms to the Crossrail station. I can't remember what level of the Crossrail station but given that all levels will be accessible step-free from the street and from the mainline station, there will therefore be a step-free route from the Bakerloo line to the mainline station this way, albeit a circuitous one. That is entirely unrelated to this development which is on the north-east side of the mainline station, Crossrail is on the south-west side. See this 2016 article from ianvisits |
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Post by crusty54 on Feb 19, 2020 11:08:49 GMT
The Bakerloo line link to Crossrail will be from the opposite end of the lower concourse to the existing escalators.
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Post by rsdworker on Feb 19, 2020 15:32:05 GMT
ah so where lifts would be arrived from ticket hall and there is other lifts? i looked at plans on blog
edit the two lifts go all way down to B2 however one lift can go up from ticket hall to concourse level for emergencies
i havent seen plans for crossrail connections
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Post by goldenarrow on Feb 20, 2020 11:05:51 GMT
ah so where lifts would be arrived from ticket hall and there is other lifts? i looked at plans on blog edit the two lifts go all way down to B2 however one lift can go up from ticket hall to concourse level for emergencies i havent seen plans for crossrail connections Diagram from Weston William + Partners. Main section highlighted in red is the link itself, the red tunnel beneath the new escalator shaft is the dedicated passageway to the lift which taps into a portal on the Southbound platform, the red cylinder on the lower left side adjoining the Northbound platform is the new relay room which used to take up the space where the new escalators for the link now occupy. The escalators/lifts from Paddington Sq will tap in close to where the new relay room is.   |
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