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Post by waysider on Jul 23, 2020 9:45:02 GMT
I went by Roding Valley yesterday and discovered to my surprise it had a second entrance - Station approach on Cherry Tree Drive...  20200722_153117 by james tuite, on Flickr Only the most unassuming of signs pointing you down there...  20200722_153448_001 by james tuite, on Flickr and even then you have to look hard...  20200722_153502 by james tuite, on Flickr which leads onto platfordm one looking east towards Hainault (note cv19 poster)  20200722_153254 by james tuite, on Flickr view looking back to the street...  20200722_153317 by james tuite, on Flickr view from platform one looking west towards Woodford...  20200722_153155 by james tuite, on Flickr The better known station building on Farm Way...  20200722_233752 by james tuite, on Flickr To the torment of those on Roding Valleys platforms, the sound of trains coming and going a few hundred yards away on the Woodfors-Epping branch is never far away. A hundred yards further along Farm Way is this view looking south - the Woodford bound train has just left Roding Valley and is joining the linefrom the left  20200722_153951_001 by james tuite, on Flickr |
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Post by londonstuff on Jul 23, 2020 10:59:49 GMT
I once ran from Roding Valley to Buckhurst Hill in about 5 minutes and 15 seconds. My lungs almost exploded.
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Post by stapler on Jul 23, 2020 20:51:23 GMT
Roding Valley Halt was funded by the developer of the quite intensive and largely terraced housing which extended both sides of the loop, and the footbridge was a link between the parts of the estate, thus it had two entrances. The company never charged for a platform ticket to use the bridge.
The two ticket offices, when I was a child, issued railway tickets on bus conductor Gibson type machines.
This part of the Woodford-Buckhurst Hill boundary was entirely undeveloped before the 1930s, and I suspect the LNER jumped at the chance to get some commuter traffic (even if 3rd class not 1st and 2nd as predominated on the "main line") from the open fields. BTW, the boundary was altered in the 1990s so the inner rail entrance was in Redbridge; previously both had been in B Hill.
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Post by waysider on Jul 23, 2020 23:10:06 GMT
So the footbridge stays open after the station is closed?
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Post by t697 on Jul 24, 2020 6:01:52 GMT
Is that a level access platform height area in picture 6 or just subsidence?!!
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Post by stapler on Jul 24, 2020 7:02:42 GMT
So far as I know in the 50s and 60s the FB was available all the time, but I couldn't swear to it, never going there at 3.a.m.....
BTW, it was always explained to me that it was Roding Valley **Halt** because the primitive wooden shacks that served as station buildings till LT days had no lavatories or drinking water (necessary for a "station"), and you would still sometimes hear it called "the Halt" 40-50 years ago.
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Post by Chris M on Jul 24, 2020 10:35:29 GMT
Is that a level access platform height area in picture 6 or just subsidence?!! TfL's step free tube map advertises that access to the trains at Roding Valley is by means of a manual boarding ramp. I have been unable to find that TfL have any current plans to install humps here. |
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Post by jimbo on Jul 24, 2020 21:17:03 GMT
In the 1960s it was the Station Foreman who issued tickets with a Gibson bus conductor machine from the outer rail building. What about weekly and season tickets? The Foreman also issued tickets at Aldwych, and Mornington Crescent(?), but was the Gibson unique to Roding Valley?
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Post by stapler on Jul 25, 2020 7:16:13 GMT
In the 1960s it was the Station Foreman who issued tickets with a Gibson bus conductor machine from the outer rail building. What about weekly and season tickets? The Foreman also issued tickets at Aldwych, and Mornington Crescent(?), but was the Gibson unique to Roding Valley? No, the Gibson was not unique to RV. The London end ticket office (on the up platform) of Buckhurst Hill also had one. RV issued large card seasons and some Edmondsons from the inner rail office. Whether that had a Gibson or not, I don't know |
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Post by spsmiler on Jul 27, 2020 9:21:54 GMT
So far as I know in the 50s and 60s the FB was available all the time, but I couldn't swear to it, never going there at 3.a.m..... BTW, it was always explained to me that it was Roding Valley **Halt** because the primitive wooden shacks that served as station buildings till LT days had no lavatories or drinking water (necessary for a "station"), and you would still sometimes hear it called "the Halt" 40-50 years ago. Thanks for that explanation of the difference between a halt and a station. Does this requirement to have water and toilet facilities (for it to be a station) apply for these facilities being available passenger use or is it sufficient for them to be solely for railway staff? |
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Post by John Tuthill on Jul 27, 2020 9:33:22 GMT
So far as I know in the 50s and 60s the FB was available all the time, but I couldn't swear to it, never going there at 3.a.m..... BTW, it was always explained to me that it was Roding Valley **Halt** because the primitive wooden shacks that served as station buildings till LT days had no lavatories or drinking water (necessary for a "station"), and you would still sometimes hear it called "the Halt" 40-50 years ago. Thanks for that explanation of the difference between a halt and a station. Does this requirement to have water and toilet facilities (for it to be a station) apply for these facilities being available passenger use or is it sufficient for them to be solely for railway staff? I always remember reading, that on the spur line to Brentford from Slough, today just where the M4 crosses it, there was a halt named "Trumpers Crossing Halt" One wag I know reckoned it was on a Brussel Sprout farm!  |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jul 28, 2020 6:00:42 GMT
Thanks for that explanation of the difference between a halt and a station. Does this requirement to have water and toilet facilities (for it to be a station) apply for these facilities being available passenger use or is it sufficient for them to be solely for railway staff? I always remember reading, that on the spur line to Brentford from Slough, today just where the M4 crosses it, there was a halt named "Trumpers Crossing Halt" One wag I know reckoned it was on a Brussel Sprout farm! The GWR favoured the spelling "Halte". Trumpers Crossing itself still exists, and is on a public footpath connecting Hanwell Locks with Windmill Lane - it is about half way between the M4 and Windmill Bridge (the three way stacked crossing of road, canal and railway), here streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=515050&y=179550&z=0&sv=tq150795&st=5&mapp=map.srf&searchp=ids.srf Of the structure itself, much of it still exists as after closure in 1926 the GWR dismantled it and re-erected it at their new "Halte" at South Greenford, two miles to the north. |
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Post by trumperscrossing on Jul 28, 2020 8:47:37 GMT
Thanks for that explanation of the difference between a halt and a station. Does this requirement to have water and toilet facilities (for it to be a station) apply for these facilities being available passenger use or is it sufficient for them to be solely for railway staff? I always remember reading, that on the spur line to Brentford from Slough, today just where the M4 crosses it, there was a halt named "Trumpers Crossing Halt" One wag I know reckoned it was on a Brussel Sprout farm! We grow the most amazing genius trumps. Believe me! |
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Post by castlebar on Jul 28, 2020 19:14:57 GMT
NO, Trumpers Crossing Halt (or Halte), was on the line from Brentford to Southall, (not Slough), and it is the only occasion where l have seen a photo of a station sign spelled 'Halte'
It is on the site of an old drove road (between Ealing Common and Heston) which fell into disuse when (a) Osterley Park was enclosed and the road diverted, and (2) the canal was built.
Now, lock gates are approximately where the original crossing once was, but cattle are notoriously bad at crossing canals via lock gates.
The old road could still be traced on large scale maps until recent years
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Post by John Tuthill on Jul 28, 2020 19:33:19 GMT
NO, Trumpers Crossing Halt (or Halte), was on the line from Brentford to Southall, (not Slough), and it is the only occasion where l have seen a photo of a station sign spelled 'Halte' It is on the site of an old drove road (between Ealing Common and Heston) which fell into disuse when (a) Osterley Park was enclosed and the road diverted, and (2) the canal was built. Now, lock gates are approximately where the original crossing once was, but cattle are notoriously bad at crossing canals via lock gates. The old road could still be traced on large scale maps until recent years Thank you for correcting my error(Southall not Slough) oops  |
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Post by stapler on Jul 28, 2020 20:53:16 GMT
So far as I know in the 50s and 60s the FB was available all the time, but I couldn't swear to it, never going there at 3.a.m..... BTW, it was always explained to me that it was Roding Valley **Halt** because the primitive wooden shacks that served as station buildings till LT days had no lavatories or drinking water (necessary for a "station"), and you would still sometimes hear it called "the Halt" 40-50 years ago. Thanks for that explanation of the difference between a halt and a station. Does this requirement to have water and toilet facilities (for it to be a station) apply for these facilities being available passenger use or is it sufficient for them to be solely for railway staff? Fraid I don't know, but I assume forstation users.. |
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