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Post by pauluni on Aug 4, 2020 10:55:22 GMT
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Post by spsmiler on Aug 4, 2020 23:04:31 GMT
wow, not cheap but it looks good and seems to be a high specification trainset.
Now we need decals for other destinations. I hope that it is possible to open them and add model people!
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Post by countryman on Aug 5, 2020 6:43:20 GMT
Are the bodies new and plastic, or are they a motorised version of the original EFE cars?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Aug 5, 2020 8:03:55 GMT
Are the bodies new and plastic, or are they a motorised version of the original EFE cars? The link above does seem to make that clear:
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Post by class411 on Aug 5, 2020 8:57:50 GMT
I can't make out whether these are die cast or plastic.
the only mention of either in the product details is this: "Whilst Exclusive First Editions is traditionally associated with diecast buses and road vehicles,"
But that does not make it clear which this new model is.
Whatever they are made of, they do look rather good.
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Post by ted672 on Aug 5, 2020 12:53:08 GMT
Rails of Sheffield are doing a good deal for pre-orders!
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Post by astock5000 on Aug 5, 2020 13:37:46 GMT
Are the bodies new and plastic, or are they a motorised version of the original EFE cars? The bodyshells look to be identical externally to the original EFE version (which unlike their bus models had a plastic body - only the chassis were diecast). There may possibly be changes associated with the new motorised chassis and interior lighting but I'd expect any to be minimal considering that the tooling is not being modified to allow for working marker lights. The tail lights and other detail on the chassis below the cab front has been moved outwards, which surely is a compromise to give the NEM coupling pocket room to swing. It's interesting that Bachmann have decided this is worthwhile, though models of main line units have been criticised in the past for not having any provision for coupling two together. The sample model does appear to be sitting rather high on its bogies, hopefully the production ones won't have that issue. But overall it seems a good specification for an upgrade I never believed would actually happen, and I hope it sells well and encourages more interest in LU models.
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Post by metman on Aug 5, 2020 13:56:11 GMT
They look ok shame the old think handrails haven’t been changed so I expect the bodies are the same but the chassis are new or revised.
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Post by metman on Aug 5, 2020 13:56:14 GMT
They look ok shame the old think handrails haven’t been changed so I expect the bodies are the same but the chassis are new or revised.
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Post by phillw48 on Aug 31, 2020 8:25:18 GMT
I'm looking forward to more versions especially the 59/62 stock.
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Post by grumpycat on Jan 7, 2021 16:04:20 GMT
Well it seems like my bank will not like it since I might try ordering 3 hope i can get DCC sound on it too e.g legomanbiffo
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Post by pauluni on Jun 22, 2021 8:48:50 GMT
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Post by spsmiler on Oct 23, 2021 15:55:52 GMT
I just went to their website and whilst the link above works the link to order them does not work.
I recently got some of the dinosaur liveried 1938ts trains. Someone was selling them on eBay. I am astonished with the interior detailing - even the hand grabs hanging from the ceiling are there!
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Post by phillw48 on Dec 4, 2021 19:49:02 GMT
I hope the motorised chassis will be available as a separate item for those who want to model other tube stock.
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Post by spsmiler on Dec 5, 2021 1:09:05 GMT
I hope the motorised chassis will be available as a separate item for those who want to model other tube stock. That would be good, if it were to happen.
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Post by metman on Dec 5, 2021 21:39:59 GMT
I wouldn’t expect them to be. It seems like spare parts are becoming less frequent these days with manufacturers wanting to keep things simple. Shame really.
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Post by phil on Dec 6, 2021 4:08:25 GMT
I wouldn’t expect them to be. It seems like spare parts are becoming less frequent these days with manufacturers wanting to keep things simple. Shame really. Its all about modern batch production techniques which means spares are basically ordered to satisfy warranty claims and nothing else.
These days model production is outsourced - even a 'manufacturer' like Bachmann (whose parent company Kadder owns the production facilities) is required to pay others to actually produce every model or run of spare parts they make.
Furthermore the actual factories (being 3rd part entities) will ensure they always have a full order book - they aren't going to sit idle just in case Bachmann ring up and ask for a batch of working chassis to be made. As such requests to make models will have to be submitted months (if not years) in advance.
Using valuable production slots which could be used to make complete models which retail at higher prices and create grater profit for the 'manufacturer' for 'spares' is not good business practice either.
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Post by pauluni on Jan 14, 2022 23:33:45 GMT
The model is now showing as arrived on the Bachmann website.
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Post by phillw48 on Jan 15, 2022 21:29:36 GMT
I have just ordered one from Rails of Sheffield. It must have been one of the last in stock as a few hours later they were showing as out of stock.
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Post by metman on Jan 16, 2022 21:52:19 GMT
What is the ride height compared with the old EFE stock?
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Post by ted672 on Jan 20, 2022 14:07:52 GMT
Mine arrived this morning and the difference is less than 2mm. When viewed from above at normal layout height, the differnce is barely noticeable. The couplings are quite close too, albeit rather fiddly to connect. Top running speed is rather slow, compared to other models,I'm not DCC,but this may improve with running in. The motors are coreless, but after some Googling I found that my Gaugemaster W controller is OK to use with it. However, the unit was not happy with my ancient Codar with simulation. It would have been nice to have supplied dummy wedgelock couplings for the ends. 
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Post by metman on Jan 21, 2022 15:10:21 GMT
Thanks. There is a noticeable difference between the old and new trains when placed side by side but maybe less noticeable from the heavens!
I have read the couplers are brittle so take car.
I thought a dummy wedgelock coupler would have made a nice touch too.
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Post by phillw48 on Mar 28, 2022 21:31:56 GMT
Thanks. There is a noticeable difference between the old and new trains when placed side by side but maybe less noticeable from the heavens! I have read the couplers are brittle so take car. I thought a dummy wedgelock coupler would have made a nice touch too. Several people on Facebook have said that the couplings are fragile. They won't stand too much pulling apart and reconnecting. I have a stock box just long enough to take two cars so I'm going to keep them connected in pairs with a magnetic coupling between the pairs.
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Post by spsmiler on Apr 22, 2022 10:11:46 GMT
The May 2022 issue of the magazine 'Model Rail' has a review of the motorised EFE 1938ts train. This is spread over several pages starting on page 92.
Page 94 has a 'factfile' section which includes three photographs taken when they were in normal passenger service at Watford Junction (also seen is a Class 501 train), in Network SouthEast livery on the Isle of Wight and somewhere above ground that the image text claims is Baker Street station. I am not exactly sure where this photograph was actually taken however I am 100,000% sure that this is not Baker Street station!
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Post by quex on Apr 22, 2022 11:05:52 GMT
Are you sure it's not Baker Street Met? Bakerloo '38s ran into the surface platforms over a few weekends in the 70s (I forget exactly when) in connection with Jubilee line works.
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Post by spsmiler on Apr 26, 2022 12:27:59 GMT
Are you sure it's not Baker Street Met? Bakerloo '38s ran into the surface platforms over a few weekends in the 70s (I forget exactly when) in connection with Jubilee line works. Apologies for the delay in replying, rather than simply say that the view from the platforms is 'very different' at Baker Street I wanted to show what it actually looks like in a pictorial way. Alas I did not find a still image that would be suitable, so here is a video instead... The station throat area is seen after about 1 minute 31 seconds, ie: after the Chesham train has left the station. btw, stereo headphones are recommended as there are also some 'unusual' noises which are more easily heard with headphones (or the sound turned up loudly, which might annoy people near to you). For instance, the hum noise as the doors open and close and what I think is the Chiltern Court clock. The Chesham train footage has (as far as I am aware) never been seen before, the rest was only filmed for my memories (the Internet barely existed when it was filmed) and I regret that it was not filmed as well as it could have been.
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Post by metman on Apr 27, 2022 17:32:42 GMT
Slightly off topic but were Chesham trains skipping Harrow as late as 1994?
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Post by spsmiler on Apr 27, 2022 22:59:32 GMT
Slightly off topic but were Chesham trains skipping Harrow as late as 1994? sorry but I do not remember
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Post by pauluni on May 4, 2022 9:01:11 GMT
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Post by metman on May 4, 2022 10:34:36 GMT
Thanks that looks good. Shame about the handrails still and lack of some details but not bad.
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