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Post by davidr1986 on Sept 10, 2021 14:10:10 GMT
Saturday 11 and Sunday 12 September, due to a lack of available staff in our control room, the Central line will be running shuttle services this weekend and there will be longer intervals than usual.
Services will operate between:
Hainault and Woodford Hainault and Ealing Broadway West Ruislip and North Acton Epping and Leytonstone
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Post by aslefshrugged on Sept 11, 2021 17:05:19 GMT
25 trains running (train crew depots)
177 Hainault-Woodford, 402-405 Hainault - Ealing Broadway (Hainault) 501-505 Leytonstone - Epping (Loughton) 601-605 Hainault - Ealing Broadway (Leytonstone) 801-805 Hainault - Ealing Broadway (White City) 901-905 North Acton - West Ruislip (West Ruislip)
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Post by vincenture on Sept 11, 2021 19:14:23 GMT
Rough guess of peak hours: Woodford to Hainault 2 tph? Leytonstone to Epping 5-6tph, Hainault to Ealing Broadway 10-12tph, North Acton to West Ruislip 4 tph Off-peak...: Woodford to Hainault 1 tph, Leytonstone to Epping 4tph, Hainault to Ealing Broadway 5-8tph, North Acton to West Ruislip 3 tph
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Post by aslefshrugged on Sept 12, 2021 8:05:40 GMT
We don't have peaks at the weekend
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Post by hobbayne on Sept 12, 2021 9:47:00 GMT
I believe this has been caused by Control Room Staff getting fed up with having to keep working overtime to keep the service running. Maybe this might be a regular thing until staffing numbers get back to normal.
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Post by aslefshrugged on Sept 12, 2021 10:49:58 GMT
Word around the mess rooms is that they're having trouble recruiting replacements, allegedly those who could do the job don't want it and those that want to do the job aren't good enough to get through training. Plus the whole process is taking longer due to Covid restrictions and TfL is having to find budget cuts.
Worth remembering that they are "safety critical", they are limited as to how much overtime they can do with minimum rest periods between shifts and a maximum number of days worked without a rest day.
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Post by North End on Sept 12, 2021 14:06:30 GMT
Word around the mess rooms is that they're having trouble recruiting replacements, allegedly those who could do the job don't want it and those that want to do the job aren't good enough to get through training. Certainly some truth to this. Why would someone already on a similar salary subject themselves to the bother of doing it, especially running the risk of ending up at a location on the wrong side of London, or that has a reputation as an awful place to work (in the case of Hammersmith)? Those with the greatest relevant experience are likely to be on similar salary. There are certainly people who have got as far as getting through the selection process and who have decided to stay where they are. As usual LU’s HR and recruitment processes don’t help matters, especially in a situation where for once LU needs people more than the people need the role.
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Post by Colin on Sept 12, 2021 21:16:23 GMT
I started the process for promotion to Line Controller in May 2019. Since October 2019, having passed the first three assessments, I've been waiting to start the next part of the selection process which became stalled once Covid fully hit us.
I asked for an update last month and was told I won't be progressed yet as I'm needed by the business in my current Instructor Operator role. To say I'm not impressed is putting it mildly and it makes absolutely no sense at all given the service affecting shortages at service control level.
In all my years on LU I've never known logic or common sense to play a part in anything but the current situation really does defy comprehension.
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Post by North End on Sept 12, 2021 22:17:16 GMT
I started the process for promotion to Line Controller in May 2019. Since October 2019, having passed the first three assessments, I've been waiting to start the next part of the selection process which became stalled once Covid fully hit us. I asked for an update last month and was told I won't be progressed yet as I'm needed by the business in my current Instructor Operator role. To say I'm not impressed is putting it mildly and it makes absolutely no sense at all given the service affecting shortages at service control level. In all my years on LU I've never known logic or common sense to play a part in anything but the current situation really does defy comprehension. Why on earth they wouldn’t want to progress people through the application / selection process at least is beyond me. At least then they know who they are potentially getting. The powers that be don’t get that they are desperate for people to fill this role, and the usual “applicants should be grateful” isn’t going to work here. There’s already people who have lost interest because of the intransigence. They will need to reach out in order to get the right people with the right mindset. Failing to do this will simply result in many “doing it for the money” candidates. Those prepared to put the effort in for something other than monetary gain will quickly find themselves turned off, and unfortunately these are the people most likely to pass the training. Just because they get a big number of applications doesn’t mean there is wriggle room to nark people off.
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Post by aslefshrugged on Sept 13, 2021 8:27:32 GMT
As we've discussed on another thread there is currently a shortage of drivers and training new recruits is being delayed partly by a shortage of Instructor Operators so its unlikely they are going to allow existing IOps to move to other roles until they get some more IOps or at least get enough TOps trained to run a full service.
Last year management proposed re-hiring retired control room staff on zero hour contracts to plug the gaps at Hammersmith but that was opposed by RMT.
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Post by brigham on Sept 13, 2021 10:17:46 GMT
As we've discussed on another thread there is currently a shortage of drivers and training new recruits is being delayed partly by a shortage of Instructor Operators so its unlikely they are going to allow existing IOps to move to other roles until they get some more IOps or at least get enough TOps trained to run a full service. Last year management proposed re-hiring retired control room staff on zero hour contracts to plug the gaps at Hammersmith but that was opposed by RMT. Let me get this straight. The Union is AGAINST re-hiring retired members to overcome a short-term staff shortage, caused by factors outside of management control?
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Post by class411 on Sept 13, 2021 10:45:39 GMT
As we've discussed on another thread there is currently a shortage of drivers and training new recruits is being delayed partly by a shortage of Instructor Operators so its unlikely they are going to allow existing IOps to move to other roles until they get some more IOps or at least get enough TOps trained to run a full service. Last year management proposed re-hiring retired control room staff on zero hour contracts to plug the gaps at Hammersmith but that was opposed by RMT. Let me get this straight. The Union is AGAINST re-hiring retired members to overcome a short-term staff shortage, caused by factors outside of management control? Probably the zero hours element that they were opposed to.
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Post by aslefshrugged on Sept 13, 2021 10:51:03 GMT
RMT were opposed to hiring staff on temporary zero hours contracts rather than permanent full-time contracts and the problems at Hammersmith are not short-term, this has been going on for a couple of years or so
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Post by North End on Sept 13, 2021 10:54:15 GMT
As we've discussed on another thread there is currently a shortage of drivers and training new recruits is being delayed partly by a shortage of Instructor Operators so its unlikely they are going to allow existing IOps to move to other roles until they get some more IOps or at least get enough TOps trained to run a full service. Last year management proposed re-hiring retired control room staff on zero hour contracts to plug the gaps at Hammersmith but that was opposed by RMT. Let me get this straight. The Union is AGAINST re-hiring retired members to overcome a short-term staff shortage, caused by factors outside of management control? I wouldn’t say all the problems are outside management’s control. SARS-CoV-2 for sure hasn’t helped, but it has tended to amplify issues which were already there. I’m not sure the idea would have worked particularly well anyway - why would a retiree on a final-salary pension want to return for a day to deal with 50 cancellations? I’m not sure there would have been that many takers.
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