new WTT60 18 July 2022

[Dstock7080]

All week
One train has been moved from Northfields depot to Cockfosters depot and a limit of 13 trains has been placed on trains starting and stabling at the west end of Northfields depot. This is in connection with PLU works concerning the rebuilding of Northfields depot in readiness for the new fleet.

Mondays to Fridays
One less train will be provided for service during the morning peak with 78 total in operation.

Friday and Saturday nights
The Night Tube service is re-introduced on Friday and Saturday nights with 6tph operating overnight between Cockfosters and Heathrow Terminal 5. 20 trains will be used for the overnight service (one train less than the previous overnight service required).
Train numbering has been changed to incorporate the additional overnight service number ranges.

Saturdays and Sundays
The morning and late evening service has been reduced by 3tph between Arnos Grove and Cockfosters with 6tph reversing at Arnos Grove during these periods..

[Dstock7080]

Passenger Night Tube services have been postponed from Saturday 23 July until Friday 29 July.
Empty running will now take place on both nights this weekend.

[nig]

Jul 20, 2022 15:16:37 GMT Dstock7080 said:

Passenger Night Tube services have been postponed from Saturday 23 July until Friday 29 July.
Empty running will now take place on both nights this weekend.

Wasn't that always the case as did that with the other lines as well

[Dstock7080]

Jul 20, 2022 19:50:39 GMT nig said:

Wasn't that always the case as did that with the other lines as well

TTN140/22 was to operate this Friday evening showing empty running, with passenger service starting on Saturday 23.
Northern Line Night Tube resumed on Saturday 2 July, with empty running on Friday 1 July.
Jubilee Line Night Tube resumed Saturday 21 May, with empty running on Friday 20 May.

[jimbo]

So did stabling at South Harrow restart with this timetable?

[nig]

Jul 21, 2022 3:22:13 GMT jimbo said:

So did stabling at South Harrow restart with this timetable?

Yes 4 in use now rest expected at the end of year

[Dstock7080]

Jul 21, 2022 7:49:45 GMT nig said:

Jul 21, 2022 3:22:13 GMT jimbo said:

So did stabling at South Harrow restart with this timetable?

Yes 4 in use now rest expected at the end of year

yep, 1, 3, 4 and 5 roads.

[DWS]

Jul 21, 2022 9:33:26 GMT Dstock7080 said:

Jul 21, 2022 7:49:45 GMT nig said:

Yes 4 in use now rest expected at the end of year

yep, 1, 3, 4 and 5 roads.

What's the issue with number 2 road ?

[towerman]

Jul 21, 2022 7:49:45 GMT nig said:

Jul 21, 2022 3:22:13 GMT jimbo said:

So did stabling at South Harrow restart with this timetable?

Yes 4 in use now rest expected at the end of year

Surely when it goes to 12 stablers they won’t all be cleaned prepped trains leaving Northfields & Cockfosters in the late evening?

[nig]

Jul 28, 2022 21:50:42 GMT towerman said:

Jul 21, 2022 7:49:45 GMT nig said:

Yes 4 in use now rest expected at the end of year

Surely when it goes to 12 stablers they won’t all be cleaned prepped trains leaving Northfields & Cockfosters in the late evening?

can't see why not some duties could stable there train in the depot and bring a fresh one out or They could always do what they do at Arnos and send someone from Northfield's to prep the trains and Have cleaners at South Harrow

[towerman]

I’d have thought they’d send a prepper from Cockfosters rather than Northfields as it’s only a couple of stops up the line.

[Chris M]

Jul 29, 2022 9:30:08 GMT towerman said:

I’d have thought they’d send a prepper from Cockfosters rather than Northfields as it’s only a couple of stops up the line.

Station to station, the travel time from Northfields to South Harrow is about 30 minutes (during the day), Cockfosters to South Harrow is about 80 minutes.
Driving, Google suggests Cockfosters Depot to South Harrow Christian Fellowship (approximately the access point) would take about 50 minutes, Northfields Depot to the same point it suggests 25-30 minutes.

[nig]

Jul 29, 2022 9:30:08 GMT towerman said:

I’d have thought they’d send a prepper from Cockfosters rather than Northfields as it’s only a couple of stops up the line.

Was just refering to way Arnos does it not where the prepper comes from which is Oakwood depot.
Although reading it back it does sound like I was saying they come from Northfield's.
Also looks like Chris thought you was refering to South Harrow I assume you was on about Arnos

[towerman]

Confusion all round.😊

[1018509]

About 12 years ago we used to complete some duties in Northfields depot then drive to South Harrow to prep the six trains there then return to Northfields for the rest of the shift. Occasionally we would also travel to Cockfosters by car to carry out scheduled examinations on trains that for whatever reason had stabled at Cockfosters rather than Northfields. Can't remember now what happened if the South Harrow man and the Cockfosters bound examiners both needed the depot vehicle but somewhere in the grey matter I think there was also a van available.

[t697]

The 20mph speed restriction and cameras on most roads in the borough of Ealing would slow those road transfers a few minutes these days.

[towerman]

Back in the early 90s when I was at Golders Green we had a depot car,a brand new Vauxhall,we had to go to Edgware as one of the staff had turned up drunk.We offered to take him home as he lived in Islington,we ran out of petrol on the Cally Rd even though the gauge said full.