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Post by class411 on Dec 29, 2022 14:51:23 GMT
Have the seats on the Piccadilly line always been so hard?
When you sit on them nowadays it's as if the moquette sits directly on top of the seat shell.
I'm (almost) sure it hasn't always been like that.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Dec 29, 2022 15:07:31 GMT
Happened when they changed from Tubelines moquette to the current Barman style.
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Post by spsmiler on Dec 29, 2022 17:43:24 GMT
Its called 'progress'.
The person who defined these types of changes as such was named George Orwell.
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Post by stapler on Dec 30, 2022 8:20:44 GMT
George Orwell, SPS? I seem to remember it being suggested it was Jacques Delors, the hardening being some kind of EU directive.... Or was that just a ferroequenological equivalent of the bendy cucumber?
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Post by cudsn15 on Dec 30, 2022 8:52:27 GMT
The arrival of the Central '92 stock marks the change of the London Underground from being a passenger delivery focused service to one of lining every employees pockets with as much money as possible - the running of trains being a minor inconvenience and the comfort and delivery of good service to what are now customers/cash cow commodities a major nuisance!
From making the line diagrams as confusing and perplexing as possible to hard seats with filthy covers, lack of up to date information displays on trains and station platforms to the inane highly repetitious to the point of driving customers off the trains announcements that some part of the "London Overground Service" is suspended - but not giving anyone a clue as to which part!
These and many more examples of trying to get rid of as many "customers" as possible ensure the service is just enough to manage the demand placed upon it.
We have seen how if the service is too good it becomes a victim of it's own success and overloads a system with no extra headroom for expansion without modernisation.
Some of this is purely facetious of course - but it's the end of the year and I've had a sherry.
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Post by class411 on Dec 30, 2022 10:10:13 GMT
George Orwell, SPS? I seem to remember it being suggested it was Jacques Delors, the hardening being some kind of EU directive.... Or was that just a ferroequenological equivalent of the bendy cucumber? George Orwell was the one who came up with the idea of changing the meaning of words to disguise what's really going on. Actually, I've just realised, you could call him 'The Father of Spin'. There was a magnificent example on British Rail back in the day, when the changed a service that used to split en-route so that passengers to one destination had to get out and wait on the platform for several minutes (assuming the second train was on time). They advertised this quite significant reduction in service quality by proudly proclaiming: "We won't split on you any More!"
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Post by PiccNT on Dec 30, 2022 10:30:59 GMT
Have the seats on the Piccadilly line always been so hard? When you sit on them nowadays it's as if the moquette sits directly on top of the seat shell. I'm (almost) sure it hasn't always been like that. Still better than the instructor seat in the cab. Roll on the '24s.
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Post by class411 on Dec 30, 2022 11:01:36 GMT
Have the seats on the Piccadilly line always been so hard? When you sit on them nowadays it's as if the moquette sits directly on top of the seat shell. I'm (almost) sure it hasn't always been like that. Still better than the instructor seat in the cab. Roll on the '24s. The seats aren't really uncomfortable. It's just that they seem unexpectedly hard when you sit down and it's always a bit of a surprise after other stock.
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