2009TS Construction Aug 21, 2006 18:28:21 GMT
Post by stephenk on Aug 21, 2006 18:28:21 GMT
markextube said:(stephenk) wrote:
In what way are you calling it a "botch up"? The seats are just less padded than other tube seats, but I wouldn't describe it as you did. Given that many metros use hard plastic seats on new trains, you shouldn't really be complaining.
Firstly yes the 92's seats are a botch up (uncomfortable in simple English) as everybody knows who has used the central line over the years. Plus there have been many threads of comments regarding the 92's seats.
Secondly i merely commented from looking at the picture, as i haven't been to see the mock up that the 09 mock up seats look like the seats of the 92's. All this clearly stated in my question.This is a visual comment and not moaning as you interpreted. This is a discussion forum hey.
So I'd appreciate a sensible reply of those who have tested out the mock up rather than silly comments.
Oh and i don't really care what the seats are made of on other systems around the world. As made clear by many on here the seats on lul stocks have always been a concern and are part of our heritage so enough of the irrelevant comments just for the sake of having the last word.
Now back to the 09 stock..
A "botch up" generally decribes something that wasn't intended. Whilst I'm sure the 92TS seats were intended to be hard in the first place. Personally I don't think they are too uncomfortable. I'm sure most members of the public really don't care, or havn't even noticed the difference between the seat bouncyness of different tube stock.
The 09TS seats are more comfortable than the 92TS. I'm wouldn't be surprised if the slim design of the cushion is to create slightly more space under the seats for equipment, or just to make the design more simple. Given the relatively short journey lengths on the Victoria Line (and low chances of getting a seat anyway during the peaks), I can't quite see harder seats being a major issue.
Comparing LU seats to other metro seats is an issue. Most new metro trains are being made in almost a kit form to reduce construction and maintenance costs. Thus train interior design is increasingly being standardised. The trend is heading towards either completely plastic seats, or harder fabric seats (as on the DLR). Thus I think the days of seats that resemble bouncy castles is over. They may be historically the classic seat of LU, but in history things have to change. You may not like 92TS seats, but they are still far better than the seats that millions of people travel on around the world.