Colin
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Post by Colin on Sept 5, 2008 0:55:10 GMT
Following a couple of recent threads that have been started on this unfortunate subject, the forum staff have decided to implement the following policy:
Members are no longer permitted to enquire about the status of a 'one under' incident (person under a train). Such posts or threads will be removed by the forum staff.
LU staff that are directly involved in an incident may post a brief outline if they feel it is appropriate - however details of a fatal incident are not allowed in case of any prejudice at a future inquest. Discussion following such a post will be at the discretion of the forum staff.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2008 7:13:50 GMT
Understandable and very sensible - agree 100%
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Oracle
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Post by Oracle on Sept 5, 2008 7:32:34 GMT
I agree, very sensible.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2008 9:57:59 GMT
As a main line Driver who has been lucky enough not to suffer one yet I also agree. Well done.
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Post by TMBA on Sept 5, 2008 21:11:08 GMT
And of course it goes without saying that if anybody needs help regarding near misses or One Unders etc then my services as a fully qualified TSGV (Trauma Support Group Volunteer) are available.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2008 21:18:58 GMT
My only surprise is that this policy took so long to be brought into force. An eminently sensible and proper idea IMO.
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Post by afarlie on Oct 26, 2008 18:37:03 GMT
Could I make a polite request that the policy of non disscusion about specfic incidents also be extended to cover certain types of speculation in relation to RAIB covered incident investigations?
Whilst I would hope there is no desire to prevent legitimate disscussions, sometimes the media may pick up comments made in
forums, and treat them as having more importance than they actually have...
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Post by angelislington on Oct 26, 2008 19:57:49 GMT
This hasn't previously happened; however, I will flag it up for discussion amongst the forum staff. Forum policy is to comment that an accident is under investigation by RAIB.
Cheers!
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Colin
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Post by Colin on Oct 27, 2008 1:53:23 GMT
This hasn't previously happened It has, but there hasn't really been any issues since you became a mod.... Could I make a polite request that the policy of non disscusion about specfic incidents also be extended to cover certain types of speculation in relation to RAIB covered incident investigations? Given that the RAIB don't actually have a clear cut policy on what they deem as worthy of investigation - that is to say, the RAIB will treat each incident reported to them on it's own merits - the forum staff are not exactly able to predict what can or can't be said as incidents unfold. The RAIB, to my knowledge, only issue guidelines on what is deemed as reportable - if we were to jump on anything posted that could be interpreted as reportable, we'd be going back to the days of 'heavy handed moderation'. Some subjects do fly close to the proverbial wind at times, so the forum staff sometimes have to make the decision between free speech and keeping things out of the public domain - it's not always easy, but I believe we're now getting right over 95% of the time. I can certainly say with 100% conviction that when the forum staff become aware of agencies such as the RAIB or the media having an interest in something we always do look very closely at whats been posted. It has happened many times already and if you are not aware of it, then that ought to prove the forum staff have done the job well. I would also add that this particular forum enjoys an extremely wide ranging membership with contacts in many high places - if certain persons were unhappy with a post, the forum staff would almost certainly be aware quite quickly. Again, it has happened and through such contact, this forum really does enjoy huge respect within the railway industry. Whilst I would hope there is no desire to prevent legitimate disscussions, sometimes the media may pick up comments made in forums, and treat them as having more importance than they actually have... This forum has only been quoted once in the media, to my knowledge (about 18 months ago) - the forum staff took preventive action at that time (that action won't be revealed!) and since then, we have not seen anything migrate from here to the media. So again I'd like to think the forum staff are getting it right and your fears are unfounded. |
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Post by norfolkdave on Dec 10, 2008 16:46:46 GMT
Having had one in my career I agree with the forum
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2009 8:24:43 GMT
Regarding the RAIB,
Regarding national rail accidents, if it was in a depot, they do not generally investigate unless somebody was injured or killed. They always investigate if it was on the operational railway.
Regarding what the policy on LU, I have no idea.
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Post by mrfs42 on Feb 2, 2009 9:33:45 GMT
Reporting to RAIB is the same as any other rail operator - subdivided into Schedule 1, 2 and 3 events.
Even though there are no level crossings traversed by public trains, LU is bound by the definition of section 67 in the Transport and Works Act 1997; sections 6, 82 and 83 of the Railways Act 1993 and various other Statutory Instruments.
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