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Post by imran on Apr 27, 2024 11:48:38 GMT
I think it’ll be great to see North Acton become step-free. The central line has a huge step-free gap between Bond Street and Ealing Broadway/Greenford. Plus it’s also where the Central line splits and some trains terminate Sad to see the original station building go (looks like an original GWR building?) but that is necessary sometimes. Incidentally, I note that North Acton seems to be replacing Hanger Lane in terms of step-free work. Hanger Lane & Park Royal were originally on the step-free upgrades list here. As of 2020, jimbo wrote they will now only be progressed with 3rd party funding. The benefits of upgrading those two would be: 1. Providing a step-free interchange between Central and Piccadilly lines (but via a long, very busy road - not nice!) 2. Serving an area without step-free stations between Ealing Broadway and Sudbury Town However, Ian’s article above implies there is overcrowding at North Acton, a big safety issue that will only get worse with time. So it makes sense that it needs an upgrade I still think it’s possible for Hanger Lane and Park Royal to be become step-free. Just might have to wait a while until funding is available.
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Post by greatkingrat on Apr 27, 2024 10:42:25 GMT
A2 is Chafford Hundred as well. C2 is Clock House.
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Post by pgb on Apr 27, 2024 10:29:48 GMT
You sure D3 isn't Stogumber? It was sent to me as a picture of somewhere else. It's been far too many years since I've been there to verify myself. This might help Stogumber
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Post by xtmw on Apr 27, 2024 10:07:26 GMT
TSRs not removed as of today so let's hope they're lifted within the next few days to put an end to this mess !
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Post by Chris M on Apr 27, 2024 9:39:15 GMT
You sure D3 isn't Stogumber? It was sent to me as a picture of somewhere else. It's been far too many years since I've been there to verify myself. Location B is Crossharbour Station Location B: Crossharbour - stairs from Pepper Street to concourse in February 2019 [Chris M] (click for a larger version) Location D is Chadwell Heath station Location D: Chadwell Heath - eastbound TfL Rail platform in October 2020 [Chris M] (click for a larger version) Well I think we've got the link as C_ H_! [Corssharbour] is the odd one out as all others are 2 word stations beginning with C & H Link and odd one out: These are all stations with two-word names starting C H, except Crossharbour the station to replace Crossharbour would be Custom House And a missing link might be Custom House. Fifth in set: Custom House The image on Picture B1 Christs Hospital station is Christs Hospital. There is only one inset in image B and the version above is unmodified, the picture of Christ's Hospital is actually at the station Missing images: Inset D1: Crowcombe Heathfield - up platform in October 2022 [ MoreToJack ] (click for a larger version) Inset D2: City Hall tram stop, Sheffield in September 2015 [Chris M] (click for a larger version) Insets A2, C2 and D3 are all that remains I think
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Post by stuartroy on Apr 27, 2024 9:21:04 GMT
And a missing link might be Custom House.
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Post by stuartroy on Apr 27, 2024 9:18:15 GMT
Well I think we've got the link as C_ H_!
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Post by bigvern on Apr 27, 2024 9:02:37 GMT
Location D is Chadwell Heath station
Location B is Crossharbour Station and is the odd one out as all others are 2 word stations begining with C & H the station to replace Crossharbour would be Custom House
The image on Picture B1 Christs Hospital station is Christs Hospital.
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Post by pgb on Apr 27, 2024 6:06:08 GMT
You sure D3 isn't Stogumber?
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Post by pgb on Apr 27, 2024 6:01:45 GMT
Teignmouth for the pier
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Post by Colin D on Apr 27, 2024 1:53:58 GMT
Question: (click for a larger version)
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Post by Colin D on Apr 27, 2024 1:51:40 GMT
Here’s what we have so far, including some from bigvern via PM. Answer: Crouch Hill - east end of westbound in May 2017 [Chris M] (click for a larger version) Inset A1: Chafford Hundred - lift from station to bridge to shopping centre in September 2015 [Chris M] (click for a larger version) Inset B: Christ's Hospital station in April 2024 [Chris M] (click for a larger version) Location C: Cambridge Heath - entrance to northbound platform seen from southbound train in December 2020 [Chris M] (click for a larger version) Inset C1: Cynfal Halt, Tallylyn Railway in May 2017 [HS Carey via mrfs42] (click for a larger version) Inset D1: Crowcombe Heathfield - up platform in October 2022 [ MoreToJack ] Inset D2: City Hall tram stop, Sheffield in September 2015 [Chris M] Clue: Inset D3: (click for a larger version)
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Post by jimbo on Apr 26, 2024 23:44:05 GMT
I think Overground to Richmond is only 4tph. I have seen no concerns about current signalling coping with an extra 4tph on that branch. Only concerns expressed for extra 4tph to Wimbledon branch.
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Post by zbang on Apr 26, 2024 23:02:15 GMT
it's possible I missed something along the way, however-
"life-expired track recording vehicle" Does that mean simply that it's old, that parts are failing and can't easily be replaced, or what? (There's plenty of old railway equipment out there operating happily.)
If it's a matter of age.... if the equipment can do the job, why is this an issue? Maybe it needs to be towed by a signals-compliant machine, but that doesn't seem like a large impediment.
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Post by miff on Apr 26, 2024 21:58:45 GMT
With hindsight (that wonderful thing, never available at the time you actually need it) was it a good decision to abandon the AIT project?
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Post by jimbo on Apr 26, 2024 21:58:33 GMT
Tender evaluation of track geometry measuring equipment is underway with contract award scheduled for mid 2022. The project will mount the equipment on two sets of host wagons, to be hauled by battery locomotives across the network, replacing a single, life-expired track recording vehicle currently in operation, doubling recording capability. Slow progress in procuring this replacement capability meant modification was needed to the existing vehicle following commissioning of new signalling on the sub-surface lines. With this work now complete, a new project will explore allowing the vehicle to operate on the Bakerloo and Jubilee lines without need for special operating measures. A further project will overhaul the Central line fleet DC traction motors, due to delays in the CLIP full production phase when these motors will be replaced by more reliable AC equivalents. (Source TfL Programmes and Investment Committee on 15 December 2021)
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Post by greatkingrat on Apr 26, 2024 20:50:49 GMT
A - Crouch Hill?
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Post by xtmw on Apr 26, 2024 20:37:15 GMT
I believe there is a substitute for the TRV. Kinda...
There's ATMS (Automatic Track Management system) fitted on the S7, S8, 1972 and 2009 stocks.
Very few trains are fitted with ATMS, only around 2 or 3 on each stock. It runs in passenger service when needed. There were plans to put ATMS onto the 1992 stock (inc W&C stock), but this was scrapped. This isn't a replacement for the TRV as it is capable of alot more
Looking at several TfL documents there hasn't been movement in this area since 2021 although it briefly touches on RTM (Remote Track Monitoring)
Something needs to happen with the TRV sooner or later as it ran into traction faults a few months ago and the onboard computer was failing. It appears to have been fixed but for how long? Has the TRV causing a headache finally caught the eye of management to warrant action?
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Post by greatkingrat on Apr 26, 2024 20:00:52 GMT
Would Richmond be able to cope with 12tph plus the Overground?
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Post by jimbo on Apr 26, 2024 19:19:34 GMT
Plans for a replacement for the TRV have been in development for some time. How far has that got? At the same time, TfL have been warning that reliability is falling system wide with insufficient funding for capital renewals. There is no long-term funding provided for multi-year projects. Government provided only half of what was asked for this year, and that deal ends in March.
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Post by jimbo on Apr 26, 2024 18:53:50 GMT
CBTC plan is for 32tph in central area, so 8tph Circle, H&City, District to Edgware Road, Ealing etc. But currently no budget for service increases. It was decided that curtailed resignalling to the west of District Line would not prevent such an upgrade. If Picc takes on Ealing, District would still work empty to/from depot, with 12tph to Richmond and 20tph to Wimbledon combined both routes.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Apr 26, 2024 18:40:30 GMT
The additional charging points at West Ealing haven’t been installed.
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Post by gefw on Apr 26, 2024 17:38:54 GMT
Great news indeed. I'd like to thank the hard working engineers (if any are reading) as they were without a doubt working around the clock to remove the TSRs where possible. I'd also like to thank rs2ooo for keeping us in the loop with this whole situation ! Maybe management will invest in a new TRV as the current one, I believe, is on the verge of falling apart... I hope their has been realisation all the way up the Management chain regarding the perilous position LUL are in with life expired kit & particularly with Obsolescence of electronic/computer based equipment.
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Post by alpinejohn on Apr 26, 2024 17:21:19 GMT
Thanks for the photo, as the red lights are still on at the rear of the train I am guessing the 230 has just arrived from Greenford - and is potentially part way through the process of topping up the batteries.
What is not clear is whether whilst the train was away in Reading they also managed to move the charging rails and stopping point further towards the buffers?
It might just be a function of the camera angle but the train does seem to a lot closer to the buffer stop and is now a metre or so clear of that painted mark on the platform.
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Post by xtmw on Apr 26, 2024 16:15:00 GMT
Great news indeed. I'd like to thank the hard working engineers (if any are reading) as they were without a doubt working around the clock to remove the TSRs where possible. I'd also like to thank rs2ooo for keeping us in the loop with this whole situation ! Maybe management will invest in a new TRV as the current one, I believe, is on the verge of falling apart...
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Post by Dstock7080 on Apr 26, 2024 16:03:46 GMT
How many District line trains per hour go to Ealing Broadway? Currently 6tph to Ealing Broadway There are only two centre platforms at Edgware Road, District use pfm.2 (currently every 10min); Circle use pfm.3 (currently every 10mins). Both trains remain stationary for 7min during off-peak, 5min with stepping-back peak.
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Post by plasmid on Apr 26, 2024 16:03:30 GMT
Lifting of individual CEN TSRs has now commenced. Great news!
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Post by spsmiler on Apr 26, 2024 15:02:48 GMT
How many District line trains per hour go to Ealing Broadway? Would splitting the service as described above really be worthwhile?
As for more trains going to Wimbledon, now that the inner circle has been converted why cant more trains from Wimbledon start running to Edgware Road 'right now'?
An increase in frequency on the Earls Court - Edgware Road route sorely is needed too - the platforms at High St Ken - Paddington are often somewhat crowded and a train every 6 or so minutes is noticeably less frequent than some other inner-city routes.
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Post by spsmiler on Apr 26, 2024 14:42:33 GMT
re: the use of copious amounts of wood, I hope that the possibility of woodworm has been considered.
re: replacement buses, the newspaper article revealed that 51.1% of the displaced passengers said that using these added 30 to 60 minutes to their journey durations - I am not surprised by this appalling state of affairs as apart from maybe the Thameslink stations at Hendon and Brent Cross West (which probably have faster trains but impose a significant extra financial burden on PAYG users) there is probably very little option for decent alternative services that do not extend journey times
*If only* there was another railway route to Edgware that could have had its services increased to meet with higher demand ... this might not have helped everyone, but it would have helped many people.
sigh
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Post by Colin D on Apr 26, 2024 14:29:23 GMT
I've fixed the thread title but this one's on Colin! Whoops I’m getting into vacation mode a little early 😎
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