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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2010 7:26:56 GMT
I read on the Tubeprune site that the 73TS got a trial refurb before the main job.
Does anyone have more pictures than the only one on Tubeprune's?
And why did the production refurb have they grey splotch on the front, whilst the trial had the full red front?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Sept 9, 2010 12:35:25 GMT
A trial refurb was carried out using UNDM 341, before unit 190 was selected for a fuller trial. Unit 190 was painted in 'Corporate livery' with a full red front but using the previous darker 'train red'. Car 170 seems to have gained the doors from some of this unit now, as the doors are train red. tinyurl.com/35ggjmt (©Brian Hardy) trial refurb Unit 190, (always paired with 123) tinyurl.com/32cj2fp (©Tilney Shane) prototype interior: blue armrests - red antimacassars. tinyurl.com/2wzbjsx (©Tilney Shane) prototype interior: red armrests - blue antimacassars. tinyurl.com/39u6k73 (©Warwick Designs) proposed frontal arrangement. |
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Post by Alight on Sept 9, 2010 16:47:23 GMT
According to 'Underground Movement' by Paul Moss, which is a book that focuses on the history of rolling stock design, 3 cars were refurbished in 1990 by Metro-Cammell. The interior photos Dstock7080 has linked above are what is shown.
I've not seen any interior design quite like it - hideous! There were metal luggage racks to serve Heathrow passengers with transverse seating in the middle of the cars (two facing one, as opposed to two facing two as seen on the 1967/72 stocks among others). Also, the fan grills were of the same design as those seen on refurbished 1967/72 stock still in use today.
These 3 cars remained like this until 1995, and market research was carried out.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2010 19:19:38 GMT
While the design is certainly "odd" with the transverse seating arrangement the inclusion of luggage racks was certainly a big plus and I'm suprised this wasn't carried over to the final refurbishment design. When I land at Heathrow I nearly always get the Picc into the City. It's cheaper (with Prv  )and gets me into the city as opposed to the other operators ex Heathrow. But the main bug bear is your sitting there with no decent place to put your (sometimes big) bag. It's fine at Heathrow but the time Hammersmith comes along your shuffling the bag around the place to keep it out of peoples way. |
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Post by plasmid on Sept 9, 2010 19:27:48 GMT
I remember seeing this train several times as a child.
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Post by Alight on Sept 9, 2010 19:37:17 GMT
While the design is certainly "odd" with the transverse seating arrangement the inclusion of luggage racks was certainly a big plus and I'm suprised this wasn't carried over to the final refurbishment design. It is a valid point you have, and these were thought to be a success for Heathrow Airport passengers, but it was more of an obstruction for the Uxbridge branch and central London commuters. I personally think they look rather unattractive. They also don't allow enough area for standing passengers during rush hour. I think the plan was to have two stainless steel folding luggage racks per car, but the images don't really depict them as 'folding'. Apparently there was a slightly different variant of luggage rack with its own seat cushion as the third link down on Dstock7080's post shows. |
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Post by metman on Sept 9, 2010 21:01:39 GMT
I think the racks were hideous! They would be an obstruction today and take up standing room. The stand backs areas were a sensible alternative.
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Post by louvrerivoli on Sept 9, 2010 21:44:02 GMT
The 2nd and 3rd images of the interior have a strong resemblence to that of the 67 and 72TS. TBH, it looked quite bland with the beige on the ceiling. But I'm glad that it wasn't used. The current interior has an everlasting appeal to it despite the age of the trains. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2010 3:42:19 GMT
Many thanks for the links to the pictures.
I'd agree, regarding the interior. The final interior has a very nice modern look to it, which will still look sharp at retirement.
However, I think the front of the train looked better in the first (Brian Hardy) pic...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2010 7:15:41 GMT
Nice pics. That takes me back a bit.
Especially as the 20Amp No.1 kept blowing on unit 190.
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)and gets me into the city as opposed to the other operators ex Heathrow. But the main bug bear is your sitting there with no decent place to put your (sometimes big) bag. It's fine at Heathrow but the time Hammersmith comes along your shuffling the bag around the place to keep it out of peoples way.
