"Doors opened on moving Victoria Line Tube"

Why not use a 67ts picture rather than an 09ts?

I must admit, I always thought there was something to stop you opening the doors on a moving train...

On a 95 stock, if the train picks up the data system signal (CSDE), the door buttons become enabled subject to speed sensing. Not sure exactly what the maximum speed is, but it's well below 10 mph.

If the pilot light is lost, motoring is inhibited however brake release is still possible.

I would *assume* that on a 67 stock, there is speed sensing but no CSDE.

I see the _subStandard are scandalising it again with their headline on it.

Indeedee!

If the RMT blame management for this one, then that'll confirm my view of them!

I've just had a peek, no picture on the story now and it mentions specifically that it was a train of 67 stock. There's also a link to a story about the 09 stock telling how wonderful they are etc...

Yes 67 stock do have speed sensing. The news this evening said it was being put down to driver error.

Before this thread is locked as an LU "incident", happy days in the 1970s/80s when ATOs would use the Allan West controllers to open the train doors as the train was coming to a halt and, if prepared, you could alight from a still-moving train.

With all the obsession with dwell-time why are all these OPO lines having such a long period between trains stopping and doors opening, which was first inflicted on us by the awful 92TS?

I think it is partly to do with how the pilot light is proved.

I have a sneaking suspicion that in the more modern stocks the VOBC requires all doors in series rather than each car side in series. This is only a supposition, admittedly.

Fair enough, but can you tell us how it is possible for a driver, though not not this particular one, to open one set of doors remotely at the rear of the train in between stations from we must assume is his cab? Is that technically possible on a 67? I'm baffled. Though not so baffled as the ES gleefully reporting it as "driver error"...........As reported, it sounds like a door irregularity or the operation of external kit......

www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23926353-commuter-terror-as-tube-doors-open-on-moving-victoria-line-train.do

Ours is not to speculate what happened, we can but go on the exclusive reporting of the Standard and their "passengers in terror" theory, or the more realistic "something happened" as reported by Auntie Beeb.

In view of that, the mod hat has to go on, and say that we can only talk about known FACTS (yes, that's facts for the well know media outlet) of the incident, no speculation or "x, y & z are to blame. Let those that need to sensationalise the story carry the can for reporting inaccuracies, and leave it at that.

The doors on 2009 stock can (and have opened) before the train comes to a complete stop (half a second or so).

Interestingly , the incident is not on the RAIBs list of investigations, so there must have been no risk of passengers being killed or seriously injured .

The RAIB do investigate serious incidents that are not accidents (and occurrences that have the potential to be accidents or serious incidents). They can also choose to investigate anything else if they believe it will lead to an improvement in railway safety.

They are not always the quickest at updating their website, nor do events necessarily appear there in chronological order, e.g. they added the 28th January incident at Brentwood to the published list a few days ago, after the 5th February incident at Halifax. As I understand it, they carry out a preliminary investigation into a large number of incidents, but they do not publish anything about incidents where the preliminary investigation concludes no further action is necessary on their part. I suspect therefore that they do not add incidents to the list until they've decided to conduct a full investigation - this will take longer for some incidents than for others.
The incident happened on Wednesday evening (according to the BBC report), so unless it was immediately apparent whether a full investigation was required (unlikely imho, if the BBC report accurately reflects what happened) or not required (given the number of possible factors that would need to be considered and the potential seriousness had the worst happened, I think this would be unlikely too) then they may not have had time to make a decision by the time whoever updates the website went home on Friday. I think the only certain thing we can say is that if they haven't said they've opened an investigation by this time next month then they almost certainly wont be doing so.
I can't remember for certain, but I think that even after the Grayrigg accident (where there would have been no doubt a full investigation was required) I think it was a couple of days before they announced their investigation so that they had the results of their preliminary investigation.