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Post by rsdworker on Nov 7, 2011 0:22:45 GMT
Ok on topic. Will Blackfriars tube get a white blob or a blue blob? According to D Stock, neither! tinyurl.com/d67cjbswoah that other fail - TFL needs make sure its present - a mistake for step free access |
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Post by rsdworker on Nov 7, 2011 0:25:10 GMT
only few stations can't be have lifts when its was reconstructioned - shephard bush (lift not installed) Lifts were planned at Shepherd's Bush, but due to the excessive costs involved in getting the shafts from the surface to the platforms, they were removed from the rebuild. I'm sure that if the rebuild had included a new platform, then lifts would have been included. yeah but its a other shameful - i think TFL could installed a incline lift next to escalator - more cheaper and less costly those are used in stockholm stations and few others and also some planned in london (crossrail) but this really belongs to central line forum |
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Post by andypurk on Nov 7, 2011 0:48:16 GMT
Lifts were planned at Shepherd's Bush, but due to the excessive costs involved in getting the shafts from the surface to the platforms, they were removed from the rebuild. I'm sure that if the rebuild had included a new platform, then lifts would have been included. yeah but its a other shameful - i think TFL could installed a incline lift next to escalator - more cheaper and less costly those are used in stockholm stations and few others and also some planned in london (crossrail) but this really belongs to central line forum And what would happen at the bottom of the escalators? There are still the same old stairs, with a slight curve, to take passengers to the actual platform level, the new escalators (and staircase) only goto an intermediate landing. I would imagine that this bit, from the landing to the platforms, was the expensive area to alter. |
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Post by rsdworker on Nov 7, 2011 16:40:26 GMT
yeah but its a other shameful - i think TFL could installed a incline lift next to escalator - more cheaper and less costly those are used in stockholm stations and few others and also some planned in london (crossrail) but this really belongs to central line forum And what would happen at the bottom of the escalators? There are still the same old stairs, with a slight curve, to take passengers to the actual platform level, the new escalators (and staircase) only goto an intermediate landing. I would imagine that this bit, from the landing to the platforms, was the expensive area to alter. yeah that's would be hard but i put the soutions in thread in central line board - link below Mods - please free move any central line station access related to districtdave.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=thecentralline&thread=17979 |
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Post by dmncf on Nov 8, 2011 14:54:39 GMT
The TfL project page says that Blackfriars tube station will gain step free access: www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/projectsandschemes/11207.aspxNot sure about the December 2011 line diagram which D Stock has photographed. Perhaps the diagram is inaccurate, or perhaps the step free access won't be completed until a later construction phase; later than December 2011. |
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Post by rsdworker on Nov 8, 2011 15:49:44 GMT
The TfL project page says that Blackfriars tube station will gain step free access: www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/projectsandschemes/11207.aspxNot sure about the December 2011 line diagram which D Stock has photographed. Perhaps the diagram is inaccurate, or perhaps the step free access won't be completed until a later construction phase; later than December 2011. somewhere back in this thread there was mention about lifts to all platforms which won't be avaible which i had quoted and linked to press release at FCC site |
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Post by rsdworker on Nov 8, 2011 15:54:32 GMT
new photo - from platform seen here - www.thameslinkprogramme.co.uk/cms/pages/view/68and also infomation about lifts here well quote: Please note: the National Rail station will be finished in the spring 2012. This means that the escalators and lifts to the National Rail platforms won't be available in the north station in December and to reach the First Capital Connect ticket office, which will not have moved at this stage, you will need to take the stairs up to platform 1 and double back on yourself to reach the old station concourse. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2011 4:44:54 GMT
I'm not so sure. Shouldn't the entrances to the NR station use NR branding rather than Tube branding?
Also, cream for the Tube platforms? I hate cream! It always looks like white stained by decades of pollution.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Nov 22, 2011 17:56:17 GMT
The latest Station Closures pdf now says the Blackfriars closure will end in 'Late Dec 2011'. Minor slippage? It does look like a slippage into 2012 is on the cards now. |
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Post by Deep Level on Nov 22, 2011 18:39:21 GMT
Passes through the other day and I think it's one of the best looking stations I've seen from what I could make out, I think the trick is the fact that it looks less like a Station ;D.
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Post by fleetline on Nov 22, 2011 23:44:31 GMT
The latest Station Closures pdf now says the Blackfriars closure will end in 'Late Dec 2011'. Minor slippage? Well late December is late 2011 so it isn't inconsistent with the original projection. The FCC press release also says that a new ticket hall is opening at Farringdon. They can't have finished it already. When I last saw it in the summer only a couple of bits of structure were up. The new ticket hall at Farringdon opens 12th Dec but the actual ticket office won't be open until the new year. Until there it'll be ticket machines only. I'm not so sure. Shouldn't the entrances to the NR station use NR branding rather than Tube branding? Also, cream for the Tube platforms? I hate cream! It always looks like white stained by decades of pollution. The entrance to Blackfriars north side is joint LUL/National Rail so a common signage was used. The TfL project page says that Blackfriars tube station will gain step free access: www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/projectsandschemes/11207.aspxNot sure about the December 2011 line diagram which D Stock has photographed. Perhaps the diagram is inaccurate, or perhaps the step free access won't be completed until a later construction phase; later than December 2011. somewhere back in this thread there was mention about lifts to all platforms which won't be avaible which i had quoted and linked to press release at FCC site new photo - from platform seen here - www.thameslinkprogramme.co.uk/cms/pages/view/68and also infomation about lifts here well quote: Please note: the National Rail station will be finished in the spring 2012. This means that the escalators and lifts to the National Rail platforms won't be available in the north station in December and to reach the First Capital Connect ticket office, which will not have moved at this stage, you will need to take the stairs up to platform 1 and double back on yourself to reach the old station concourse. Blackfriars station isn't due to be completed until after Easter 2012. The lifts are all tied into this (same with West Hampstead). This was always planned to happen, just not communicated well ahead of time. |
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Post by fleetline on Nov 26, 2011 16:56:55 GMT
Now told its likely to be early Jan for the opening (5th has been mentioned).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2011 17:46:02 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2011 19:48:17 GMT
A new entrance is open? And another opens next week? The same day as the new ticket hall at Farringdon? And the Thameslink website looks like Channel 5 when it first started?
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Post by norbitonflyer on Dec 5, 2011 19:59:40 GMT
Went across Blackfriars Bridge today, twice - nothing to say there was an entrance to the statrion on the South Bank.
And as recently as last week there was no suggestiuon that the Thames Path would be opening that soon - still defiantly closed with a very old notice saying "re-opening late 2011"
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Post by mcmaddog on Dec 6, 2011 0:24:52 GMT
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Post by jimini on Dec 6, 2011 13:00:36 GMT
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Post by fleetline on Dec 6, 2011 19:34:40 GMT
Yes it is. There also a picture showing a HST departing Blackfriars for City Thameslink. And inside the work site out of public view is a shot of a 455 in SWT red pulling into the station. Make what you want of that........ |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Dec 6, 2011 20:04:19 GMT
Yes it is. There also a picture showing a HST departing Blackfriars for City Thameslink. ........ I can't see either picture on that link. I've seen the Connex one before (shows how old the project is) but not the HST. Where can I find it? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2011 20:34:06 GMT
Does anyone what is causing the delay? |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Dec 22, 2011 13:15:18 GMT
New D Stock line diagrams (second lot in 2 months!): tinyurl.com/d5pwdpn -with sticker, correction "reopens early 2012". tinyurl.com/c8rtqnb -without sticker, correcting step-free access error. |
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Post by fleetline on Dec 30, 2011 16:54:05 GMT
Yes it is. There also a picture showing a HST departing Blackfriars for City Thameslink. ........ I can't see either picture on that link. I've seen the Connex one before (shows how old the project is) but not the HST. Where can I find it? I don't know. I saw it on internal stuff so not sure it went out to the public. Does anyone what is causing the delay? The bit between the new entrance hall and the start of the Tube station proper isnt ready yet. While they have completed a lot of the station it's getting to the street that's the problem. New D Stock line diagrams (second lot in 2 months!): tinyurl.com/d5pwdpn -with sticker, correction "reopens early 2012". tinyurl.com/c8rtqnb -without sticker, correcting step-free access error. What step free access error? |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Dec 30, 2011 18:20:35 GMT
What step free access error? This, shown on recently replaced 'August 2011' version: tinyurl.com/bvsryu8 |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2011 18:59:32 GMT
I can't see either picture on that link. I've seen the Connex one before (shows how old the project is) but not the HST. Where can I find it? I don't know. I saw it on internal stuff so not sure it went out to the public. As a follower of HSTs on the "big railway", I'd really like to see this picture if anyone can dig it out, for amusement if nothing else! |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jan 25, 2012 15:56:22 GMT
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Post by v52gc on Jan 25, 2012 16:48:52 GMT
For some reason after looking at those photos it reminds me of Heathrow Terminal 4 station!
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Post by Ben on Jan 25, 2012 18:36:26 GMT
Looks very pleasing. Personally though not a fan of the ceiling design, nor of how theyve treated the western extension; thought the concrete columns had originally been given a gloss finish so they could stay (along with roof beams) exposed? Seems a pity to box it in
The aesthetic style seems to be the house design atm!
All in all mostly thumbs up so far.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2012 20:24:28 GMT
Agreed Ben. I used the Southbank exit for the first time last week. The station and the new exit are great. am looking forward to when the remaining netting and plastic is removed and we can get a full impression of the place.
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Post by rapidtransitman on Jan 27, 2012 1:44:25 GMT
Re: tinyurl.com/7qtt2da WB The platform seems awfully narrow in this shot. I'm not familiar with the station, but this appears dangerously narrow. |
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Post by Ben on Jan 27, 2012 3:14:00 GMT
The width will be at least 6 foot, which at the time of lengthening ('61-'62) met the required standard of normal platform width. The section like this is 74 feet long.
Found a data sheet on the net that puts the depth of the nosing stone at 610mm. That might help with a rough estimate...
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