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Post by sawb on Apr 18, 2019 16:42:46 GMT
Can anyone confirm please whether the Olympia shuttle will run on Wednesday 15th and Thursday 16th May for the Museums and Heritage Show? I can't find anything on the TfL website yet so am assuming not.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Apr 18, 2019 17:29:19 GMT
Can anyone confirm please whether the Olympia shuttle will run on Wednesday 15th and Thursday 16th May for the Museums and Heritage Show? I can't find anything on the TfL website yet so am assuming not. The train service shuttle does not operate on weekdays. A bus service is often provided for events of an expected large attendance, but on this occasion appears not.
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Post by Chris L on Apr 18, 2019 19:04:43 GMT
Can anyone confirm please whether the Olympia shuttle will run on Wednesday 15th and Thursday 16th May for the Museums and Heritage Show? I can't find anything on the TfL website yet so am assuming not. The train service shuttle does not operate on weekdays. A bus service is often provided for events of an expected large attendance, but on this occasion appears not. There is always a bus service from outside the Warwick Road exit. Cross the road and turn right as you leave the station.
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Post by Colin on Apr 18, 2019 19:34:23 GMT
A slightly more clunky option, if you wish to get there by rail is to take a Wimbledon service one stop from Earls Court to West Brompton, cross over to the National Rail platforms (this will involve stairs I'm afraid) and then you can take a Southern or London Overground service one stop to Kensington Olympia.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2019 19:51:43 GMT
Or if it’s a nice day it’s around a 20min walk from Earls Court at a steady pace
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Post by londoner on Apr 18, 2019 20:44:43 GMT
You can use several busses (9/23/27) from Hammersmith/High Street Ken which stop right outside Olympia. It takes about 5 to 10 mins depending on the direction and traffic. Usually High Street Ken has a lot of traffic. The overground stops at Olympia station from Stratford/Willesden Jn or Clapham Jn.
Don't rely on the Southern service, in my experience it tends to be cancelled or curtailed regularly.
The walk from Shepherd's Bush is about 15 mins I reckon, and you just mostly follow the route of the 49 bus. You can then use the pedestrian footbridge at Olympia station to get to the venue, without having to enter the station premises.
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Post by phil on Apr 19, 2019 13:06:32 GMT
Don't rely on the Southern service, in my experience it tends to be cancelled or curtailed regularly.
Southern are outnumbered by the frequent Overground services on he WLL!
In any case if its curtailed then that usually happens at Shepherds Bush (which has a useful turnback siding just to the north - aka the old Eurostar depot access) and thus will still be available for the West Brompton - Olympia hop.
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Post by greatkingrat on Apr 19, 2019 14:38:39 GMT
Or if it’s a nice day it’s around a 20min walk from Earls Court at a steady pace If you are walking, West Kensington is closer than Earl's Court.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Apr 19, 2019 16:41:15 GMT
Don't rely on the Southern service, in my experience it tends to be cancelled or curtailed regularly. Indeed, but between Clapham Junction and Shepherds Bush it augments the Overground service, even using the same platforms except at Clapham Junction.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2019 18:38:47 GMT
Or if it’s a nice day it’s around a 20min walk from Earls Court at a steady pace If you are walking, West Kensington is closer than Earl's Court. Any District train goes to Earls Court plus the Picc of course
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Post by melikepie on Apr 20, 2019 1:08:31 GMT
The train service shuttle does not operate on weekdays. Technically that is not true
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Post by superteacher on Apr 20, 2019 7:08:47 GMT
I’m pretty sure Dstock7080 is aware of the occasional trains which run to Olympia on weekdays. However, the timings are pretty useless for anybody wishing to use them to get to an exhibition there. So to all intents and purposes, there isn’t really a weekday service of any practical use.
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Post by A Challenge on Apr 20, 2019 17:01:06 GMT
Do TfL still do any event day shuttles any more?
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Post by Colin on Apr 20, 2019 23:22:38 GMT
Do TfL still do any event day shuttles any more? No. As per Dstock7080's first reply on this very thread: The train service shuttle does not operate on weekdays. A bus service is often provided for events of an expected large attendance
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Post by superteacher on Apr 21, 2019 6:24:09 GMT
Wasn’t the original promise (after the daily service ended) to run a weekday service during major exhibitions?
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Post by Colin on Apr 21, 2019 9:33:45 GMT
Wasn’t the original promise (after the daily service ended) to run a weekday service during major exhibitions? I don't recall any promises being made..... The weekday service was withdrawn with the introduction of Working Timetable 141 on 11th December 2011. From this date trains only ran on weekdays for selected exhibitions, half hourly between the peaks. This thread shows that the ad-hoc train service for selected events was replaced by the current bus replacement set up in December 2014.
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Post by neutron on Apr 21, 2019 14:35:39 GMT
The consultation report stated the following
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Post by londonstuff on Apr 21, 2019 17:47:32 GMT
The consultation report stated the following Is this a recent document or one at the time of reduction in service? Do you have a link?
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Post by neutron on Apr 21, 2019 18:07:25 GMT
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Post by londonstuff on Apr 21, 2019 18:14:10 GMT
Thanks, neutron. The next step is to work out if they’ve been consistent with what they’ve said and if not, whether they’ve detailed the changes they’ve subsequently made. I rather suspect the answer to both is no. Whether that’s a good thing or not in the grand scheme of things is a different matter - ‘they’ were clearly doing things in stages with regard to weeding out the service and it was never likely that they were going to interfere with the WTT too much to accommodate exhibitions.
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Post by Chris M on Apr 21, 2019 20:57:02 GMT
it was never likely that they were going to interfere with the WTT too much to accommodate exhibitions. If there were runs-as-required paths in the Working Timetable (WTT) then there would be no interference required. That isn't necessarily the most efficient way to run a railway though.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Apr 21, 2019 21:03:31 GMT
it was never likely that they were going to interfere with the WTT too much to accommodate exhibitions. If there were runs-as-required paths in the Working Timetable (WTT) then there would be no interference required. That isn't necessarily the most efficient way to run a railway though. It would also have defeated the stated purpose of reducing the Olympia service in the first place, which was to create more paths through Earls Court for Wimbledon services.
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Post by Deep Level on Apr 21, 2019 22:29:37 GMT
This was the key from the December 2012 tube map, I believe it no longer says this:
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Post by superteacher on Apr 22, 2019 7:33:45 GMT
Am glad I didn’t imagIne the whole thing! Have they ever actually ran a weekday exhibition service since 2011?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Apr 22, 2019 8:26:30 GMT
This was the key from the December 2012 tube map, I believe it no longer says this: From the January 2016 map the wording was subtly changed to: “and on some public holidays”. Am glad I didn’t imagIne the whole thing! Have they ever actually ran a weekday exhibition service since 2011? Still checking: Bus service operated: (2014) 10-11 Feb, 21 Feb, 7 Mar, 27-28 Feb, 2-4 Apr, 14 Apr, 29-30 Apr, 14-16 May, 11 Jun, 25-26 Jun, 4 Jul, 10 Jul, 4-5 Aug, 12-15 Aug, 22 Sep, 26 Sep, 1-2 Oct, 7-10 Oct, 15-17 Oct, 21-22 Oct, 24 Oct, 4-7 Nov, 13-14 Nov, 27-28 Nov; (2015) 23 Jan, 29-30 Jan, 9-10 Feb, 13 Feb, 18-20 Feb, 25-27 Feb, 5 Mar, 10-11 Mar, 20 Mar, 23-27 Mar, 30 Mar-6 Apr, 14-16 Apr, 21-22 Apr, 8 May, 11-14 May, 18-20 May, 27-28 May, 2-4 Jun, 10-11 Jun, 18 Jun, 24-25 Jun, 3 Jul,
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Post by scheduler on Apr 22, 2019 18:10:03 GMT
The replacement bus service to Olympia is still very much a feature of the timetable office's output. I can't remember a time in the last 2 years when a train service ran on a weekday. It is Saturdays, Sundays and on public holidays, if there is no engineering work, such that a normal Saturday service can operate. With the major rebuild work at Olympia of recent times, I don't think there has been an event large enough to warrant a train service.
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Post by Chris L on Apr 22, 2019 18:47:23 GMT
The replacement bus service to Olympia is still very much a feature of the timetable office's output. I can't remember a time in the last 2 years when a train service ran on a weekday. It is Saturdays, Sundays and on public holidays, if there is no engineering work, such that a normal Saturday service can operate. With the major rebuild work at Olympia of recent times, I don't think there has been an event large enough to warrant a train service. Ideal Home Exhibition?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 13:52:24 GMT
Been quite a few Olympia trains today but only due to a defective point machine component at Turnham Green
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Post by scheduler on Jun 17, 2019 22:13:17 GMT
The replacement bus service to Olympia is still very much a feature of the timetable office's output. I can't remember a time in the last 2 years when a train service ran on a weekday. It is Saturdays, Sundays and on public holidays, if there is no engineering work, such that a normal Saturday service can operate. With the major rebuild work at Olympia of recent times, I don't think there has been an event large enough to warrant a train service. Ideal Home Exhibition? Nope, for that you just double up the bus service to 15bph
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Post by brigham on Jun 18, 2019 7:57:37 GMT
"Bustitution comes to London..."
A good title for the Pathé Gazette!
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