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Post by norbitonflyer on Jun 23, 2019 22:54:16 GMT
Isn't the tennis in Eastbourne? Queens is near Barons Court. Today (Sunday) is, if I've read their calendars right, the last day of Queens and the first day of the Eastbourne tournament.
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Post by spsmiler on Jun 23, 2019 23:23:41 GMT
Isn't the tennis in Eastbourne? Queens is near Barons Court. Today (Sunday) is, if I've read their calendars right, the last day of Queens and the first day of the Eastbourne tournament. Aha! This means that Met No.1 also featured in the tennis!!!
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Post by AndrewS on Jun 24, 2019 10:36:13 GMT
I'm a little bemused by the instruction not to discuss the late departure from Ruislip. Surely after the event the cause is a reasonable topic of interest, and not to mention it could give the impression that something is being hushed up.
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Post by rincew1nd on Jun 24, 2019 10:51:05 GMT
That's just a general thing on this forum, we don't speculate on operating events.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2019 16:09:25 GMT
The reason is published elsewhere if anyone is intrested, but I agree, why talk about what went wrong, when it was a great success
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Post by whistlekiller2000 on Jun 24, 2019 17:24:19 GMT
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Post by spsmiler on Jun 24, 2019 22:03:35 GMT
"Not many people there" !! Seriously though, at times I wondered whether overcrowding might become an issue.
But it was good that people came - not just the 'camera wielding' but family groups, people of all ages, more.
I have not finished shifting through all my photos but am far enough advanced to share some, which I have done using Twitter as I can then share them further (eg: here) and use Twitter for image hosting.
This last group focuses on Coach 100, which I recall seeing many years ago but then became under the impression was actually a fake (although I no longer recall why).
Simon - who in some ways is nostalgic for the days of 36 image rolls of 35mm film, as that way he would not arrive back home with hundreds of images!!!
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Post by goldenarrow on Jun 25, 2019 14:51:53 GMT
This might be me just having a slightly hazy recollection of what Sarah Siddons sounds like but why did it have the sound of a lawnmower when it was out and about?
Video from EH Steam Videos.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jun 25, 2019 16:03:31 GMT
This might be me just having a slightly hazy recollection of what Sarah Siddons sounds like but why did have the sound of a lawnmower when it was out and about? I have wondered that myself, certainly wasn’t present before it’s recent trip to Eastleigh, hopefully will be resolved when it returns there very soon. I did wonder if it was a modern compressor or something to do with the steam loco at the other end, vacuum brake etc?
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Post by rincew1nd on Jun 25, 2019 19:17:05 GMT
Admin CommentEarlier in this thread a Moderator wrote: Can we talk about the timings of the past? Now the event is out of the way I don't see any reason why we can't talk about the timings - the train ran between 60 and 90 minutes late all day due to an issue on departure from Ruislip Depot. However, please no discussion of the incident itself which led to the late departure. Let's focus on the success of the event, which could so easily have been cancelled.Our current rules are quite clear: This forum has become a premier place for the discussion of not only London Underground, but also the other railways operated by Transport for London - the forum also enjoys a respected interest at the very highest level within London Underground and other areas of T fL. Membership of this forum has always been and will continue to be open to all, including any 'Protected Characteristic' or similar. Because of this, Forum Staff undertake the running of the forum on a more formal level than other similar types of media; to that end, rules have been devised to ensure that all forum users know what is expected regarding their behaviour and general use of the forum. Rule 7 (What not to Post)7.3 (Serious Incidents and/or Major Events) Serious incidents or other major events such as derailments, crashes, fires, weather, terrorist, etc (to give a few examples - this list is not exhaustive) can also prove to be a particularly difficult subject, especially in the early stages. These type of events will always lead to speculation and internal investigations. As a result the following applies on this forum: - (7.3a) Forum staff members will confirm the facts when they have them to hand, though it may be some time time before this is possible.
- (7.3b) LU staff that are directly involved in an incident may post a brief outline if they feel it is appropriate - however as with our one under rule above, details of a fatal incident are not allowed in case of any prejudice at a future inquest.
- (7.3c) Discussion will be at the discretion of the forum staff, however in most cases once the facts have been confirmed, a given thread will most likely be locked to prevent non factual speculation.
- (7.3d) Should an official report be released, a request can be made to a member of forum staff to have a link added to the original locked thread. For further discussion after an official report has been released, a new thread should be started.
Given that this type of incident/event will be subject to official lines of enquiry and/or investigation, it is important that we do not allow this forum to become involved with speculation that would detract from the facts. Information may or may not be found within websites elsewhere on the internet - just because it's on another website, it doesn't mean it is factually correct or that we can or will allow it here; again the forum staff cannot 'police' other websites, but we are responsible for what appears on this forum.
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Please note the last sentence. As such a post has been removed from the thread. Whilst a 90 minute delay may not feel like a "serious incident", MoreToJack 's statement in 'Moderator green ink' was quite clear; this thread would focus on the success of the event. There has been much ill-informed speculation regarding the cause of the delay on other forums/media, this forum is well respected and has a reputation because we focus on facts rather than engaging in speculation around events. As per rule 7.3b (above) forum staff may be posting a summary of the incident if it is considered appropriate, however I wouldn't suggest anyone hold their breath. On a more personal note I'm sad that I couldn't make it to see the train or to the forum social (I was at Middleton Railway with my steam roller), I'd be glad to see and hear more of what member's thought of what otherwise seems to have been a great weekend of Steam on the District.
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Post by roverlei on Jul 4, 2019 14:37:53 GMT
I'm a little bemused by the instruction not to discuss the late departure from Ruislip. Surely after the event the cause is a reasonable topic of interest, and not to mention it could give the impression that something is being hushed up. Agreed. I asked politely for basic information about this on the day and was told I was breaking forum rules and had the thread locked. Weird.
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Post by spsmiler on Jul 4, 2019 17:04:22 GMT
It took me longer than I had hoped but finally I have completed a film showing the "Steam On The District" train which ran between *Ealing Broadway and High Street Kensington a few weeks ago.
The train is seen at nine stations (Ealing Broadway, Acton Town, Chiswick Park, Stamford Brook, Hammersmith [District / Piccadilly], Earls Court, High Street Kensington, Ealing Common, North Ealing) sometimes travelling in one direction and sometimes in both directions, plus there are several views between stations from passing Piccadilly line trains. Some views include an element of "people watching" to show the crowds of people who attended and filmed this event - this explains why I sometimes stepped back from the front of the pack. Apologies, you get to hear me speak a few times. I tried to be brief!
The purpose of the special journeys was to celebrate 150 years of the London Underground District line which first opened on 24th December 1868.
When the service first commenced the Metropolitan Railway provided the locomotives and rolling stock. Therefore it is appropriate that the train used on this special event also comprised (vintage) Metropolitan Railway locomotives and passenger carriages, although (for this event) the train also included a four wheel carriage which is thought to be the only surviving item of rolling stock from the District Railway's steam train era.
Enjoy!
Simon
*) Plus additional "empty train" journeys between Ruislip depot and Ealing Broadway before and after the passenger journeys - it is a shame that these did not carry passengers, especially at the end of the day with the passengers being detrained at a convenient station before reaching Ruislip depot - I can recall an event when such extra journeys were added at a late stage, albeit with the 1938 tube stock where tickets for an additional journey from Russell Square to Ealing Broadway were sold so that the train returning to depot after the main events for that day could still earn some well deserved extra income.
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Post by Colin D on Jul 4, 2019 18:41:04 GMT
Thanks for posting this video Simon, missed the event by a month. Could almost feel the atmosphere with the sights and sounds.
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Post by Tom on Jul 4, 2019 19:10:22 GMT
I'm a little bemused by the instruction not to discuss the late departure from Ruislip. Surely after the event the cause is a reasonable topic of interest, and not to mention it could give the impression that something is being hushed up. Agreed. I asked politely for basic information about this on the day and was told I was breaking forum rules and had the thread locked. Weird. Folks, we have Rule 7 (particularly 7.2) in place for a reason. In the past, members of this forum who were LU staff posted details of an incident they were involved in which was copied by a journalist and reproduced in a national newspaper. We don't want that to happen again.
Likewise, we don't want the forum to become a hotbed of gossip amongst the enthusiast community about what did or didn't happen on special events. Reports of the final A stock train in 2012 attaining its original design speed were spread widely on social media, then picked up by someone writing in the railway press who, depsite sounding like they were in a place of authority, didn't have any knowledge of what was officially sanctioned or not. It ended up getting the staff involved into hot water with the ORR.
We really don't want a repeat of these type of incidents which could adversely affect the good relationship the forum has with LU.
Please, don't question the reasons for the late departure again. We are watching this thread, and will amend posts and/or lock it should the need arise, but we really don't want to have to do so.
Thanks.
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Post by trainopd78 on Jul 8, 2019 10:57:15 GMT
This might be me just having a slightly hazy recollection of what Sarah Siddons sounds like but why did it have the sound of a lawnmower when it was out and about? The lawnmower sound only occurs when Sarah is leading. The noise is from the electric vacuum exhauster required to run the vintage coaches with. When she is in air brake mode you will find there is no noise. On a side note I feel obliged to thank our superb test engineers and everyone else on duty who quietly and efficiently pulled out all the stops to ensure Saturday could still go ahead. Its an honour to work with them all.
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Post by rincew1nd on Jul 8, 2019 15:20:55 GMT
Interesting that the describer at Earl's Court was lit up for Ealing Broadway. OK it's technically correct that's where the train was going, but I expected it to not display a destination at all.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2019 15:36:07 GMT
It would if been easier for the signal op to leave the programme machines in FCFS first come first served mode which will route the train via the TD given and not having to operate sites manually
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Post by tjw on Jul 8, 2019 16:11:35 GMT
The lawnmower sound only occurs when Sarah is leading. The noise is from the electric vacuum exhauster required to run the vintage coaches with. When she is in air brake mode you will find there is no noise. I presume that this is a new vacuum pump, On steam on the Met 2000, the 2 vintage carriages and Met 1 were dragged by battery locos, with an airline clipped on to the stepboards... We were also told that Sarah did not have vacuum. They must have fitted a pump for the runs of the Ashbury / Chesham set in passenger service. N.B. the TC set is of course air braked.
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Post by trainopd78 on Jul 9, 2019 13:11:01 GMT
The lawnmower sound only occurs when Sarah is leading. The noise is from the electric vacuum exhauster required to run the vintage coaches with. When she is in air brake mode you will find there is no noise. I presume that this is a new vacuum pump, On steam on the Met 2000, the 2 vintage carriages and Met 1 were dragged by battery locos, with an airline clipped on to the stepboards... We were also told that Sarah did not have vacuum. They must have fitted a pump for the runs of the Ashbury / Chesham set in passenger service. N.B. the TC set is of course air braked. The vacuum equipment was fitted late 2012 in readiness for the lu150 celebrations. The briefing note i have is dated Dec 2012
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Post by roythebus on Jul 12, 2019 21:45:48 GMT
The District 4 wheel coach normally resides on the Kent & East Sussex Railway at Tenterden. It's been "in works" for a number of years for complete restoration to a very high standard. The underframe, like most surviving 4 wheel coaches underframes, are not original but usually cut-down Southern Railway PMV or BR CCT van underframes.
When the 4 wheelers were taken out of service in the 1920s and before, the underframes would have gone for scrap and the bodies either burnt or used as holiday homes. the KESR has a complete Victorian train set of 4 and 6 wheelers; the Isle of Wight Steam Railway also has a Victorian train of 4 wheelers. The quality of restoration on these vehicles is a credit to both railways. Not forgetting the Bluebell's Chesham set of course. But that is on original running gear.
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Post by rincew1nd on Jul 13, 2019 10:54:17 GMT
Don't forget The Talyllyn Railway can still operate its original four wheel carriages from 1865. Edit to add: and they've been operating continuously too, no time spent as chicken coups etc...
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Post by Chris W on Jul 25, 2019 12:20:27 GMT
It only took me a month to get to my images and upload the best to Flickr - apologies for the delay
A few memories of the first and second trips on the Sunday can be found HERE
Enjoy
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Post by spsmiler on Jul 27, 2019 13:35:43 GMT
It only took me a month to get to my images and upload the best to Flickr - apologies for the delay
A few memories of the first and second trips on the Sunday can be found HERE
Enjoy You are still faster then me! I hope to do this next month (August 2019)
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Post by sem34090 on Aug 14, 2019 10:41:06 GMT
Well that's exactly what I did! It took me until last Sunday to get around to developing it, mind, but it was nice to get back out with film again. I was a bit out of practice with the camera (I haven't used my Halina Paulette much this year, and I only bought it in September!) and some of the shots were very rushed, but I like to think there are a few of reasonable quality. The negative scanner didn't like the shots I took to the West of West Kensington, however, and I reckon they're the best ones on the film. I'll try and get some of these printed within the next few weeks. I haven't edited any of these yet, digitally or in the darkroom. Sarah at Ealing Common. Met No.1 assaulting the bank out of Acton Town. I wish the friend who took a video of this would send me said video! I also think I took a shot of her a bit further up the bank, but this has yet to be scanned. Further proof that I'm out of practice - this one is shaky enough, but is still the best of the ones I took at Chiswick Park. Coming round the curve just outside West Kensington. Pity about the flyover wall in the foreground. I took a few more general shots too.
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Post by John Tuthill on Aug 14, 2019 11:03:28 GMT
Well that's exactly what I did! It took me until last Sunday to get around to developing it, mind, but it was nice to get back out with film again. I was a bit out of practice with the camera (I haven't used my Halina Paulette much this year, and I only bought it in September!) and some of the shots were very rushed, but I like to think there are a few of reasonable quality. The negative scanner didn't like the shots I took to the West of West Kensington, however, and I reckon they're the best ones on the film. I'll try and get some of these printed within the next few weeks. I haven't edited any of these yet, digitally or in the darkroom. Sarah at Ealing Common. Met No.1 assaulting the bank out of Acton Town. I wish the friend who took a video of this would send me said video! I also think I took a shot of her a bit further up the bank, but this has yet to be scanned. Further proof that I'm out of practice - this one is shaky enough, but is still the best of the ones I took at Chiswick Park. Coming round the curve just outside West Kensington. Pity about the flyover wall in the foreground. I took a few more general shots too. Nice to see them in B&W, gives them a nostalgic feeling
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